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    Default Would somebody please sterilize these people?

    Seventeen kids??


    Some thoughts:

    1. On their web site, they describe their guilt over a miscarriage purportedly associated with her use of birth control pills. Clearly they are royally overcompensating.

    2. Did it ever occur to them what kind of shape this world would be in if EVERY couple had 17 kids? To me it is the epitome of selfishness to cram that many more children into a world that is royally overpopulated as it is.

    3. In time at least one of these kids will probably turn out to be an ax murderer.

    4. All they talk about is having more kids. You never hear them say anything about why all of us should have more kids. From that I infer that they think they are the only ones in the world worthy of having such a brood.

    5. I wonder how much her health is at risk after 15 pregnancies. This latest was a VBAC--vaginal birth after caesarean. I never heard that before, but I presume that she had enough incision to constitute a full caesarean. Even without it--you mommies and OB's chime in--isn't there considerable risk in having so many? Is this Jim Bob's big virility exhibition, or does she actually want that many kids too?

    6. If they are receiving one plug nickel of public assistance, I may go to Arkansas and take away his Cialis.

    7. How does she keep getting pregnant? I just have two kids and getting enough privacy for that is a real challenge. How do you manage with 17 kids? You know it just has to make the older ones want to vomit.


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    This reminds me of an eposide of the game show "You Bet Your Life"..

    He had a contestant who stated that he had 13 children..

    Groucho: "Thirteen Children!"
    Contestant: "yes, I love my wife"
    Groucho: "I love my cigar, too, but I take it out once in a while...."
    In the case that East KYFF posted.. I think it's an evangelical Christian thing.
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    i also think it is a religious point of view,concerning this family.17 kids,wow!
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    That's too many birthdays to keep up with.

    I'm sure they will stop doing c-sections on her and just install a zipper.
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    I think their motivations are largely religious. My concern is that if that is the reproductive lifestyle they think is God's way--and I have read nothing more specific than "go forth and multiply" in the Bible on this subject--what do they think would happen if everybody complied?

    Right now we average 2.5 kids per household in the US, I think. So a few generations would go like this:

    Me & the honey
    2.5 kids
    6.25 grandkids
    15.625 great-grandkids
    39.0625 great-great grandkids
    97.65625 great-great-great grandkids


    Mr. & Mrs. Duggar
    17 kids
    289 grandkids
    4,913 great-grandkids
    82,521 great-great grandkids
    1,419,857 great-great-great grandkids (I bet there aren't that many first names that start with "J")

    Some perspective:

    -It would take me FIFTEEN GENERATIONS to top what the Duggars would do in FIVE generations.

    -If every human being in Idaho dropped dead and the Duggars moved in, it would be fully repopulated in six generations. If every human being in the United States dropped dead except the Duggars, they could repopulate us to 410 million in eight generations.

    -Their great-great grandchildren, with boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses, would fill Bristol Motor Speedway to capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanEMVFD View Post
    That's too many birthdays to keep up with.

    I'm sure they will stop doing c-sections on her and just install a zipper.
    HAR!! But I think her husband is the one who needs a zipper installed!
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    I really don't see what's wrong with it. I think if they want that many kids and can handle it go for it. If there's no problems medically then I think they should have as many kids as they want. It's awesome their able to handle that many kids and to support their family. I think the Duggar family is awesome. I love watching about their story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FIREGIRL4EVER View Post
    I really don't see what's wrong with it. I think if they want that many kids and can handle it go for it. If there's no problems medically then I think they should have as many kids as they want. It's awesome their able to handle that many kids and to support their family. I think the Duggar family is awesome. I love watching about their story.
    Don't get me wrong. I am impressed that they are able to keep up with that many kids, and the kids (despite my ax murderer joke above) seem well-adjusted and are clearly hard-working. If they're doing it without food stamps, etc., it is their business--to some extent.

    But one of my rules of thumb for deciding whether or not to do something has always been, "What if everybody did this?"

    It's no big deal if only I throw my fast-food trash out the car window, but what if everybody did?

    It's no big deal if only I sit out a fire run when I'm tired, but what if everybody did?

    And it's no big deal if only the Duggars have 17 kids, but what if everybody did?
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    They do recieve items as donations from companies wanting to use them for an advertising campaign
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastKyFF View Post
    To me it is the epitome of selfishness to cram that many more children into a world that is royally overpopulated as it is.
    I'll go you one better: To me it is the epitome of selfishness to cram any more children into a world that is royally overpopulated as it is.

    Kids aren't an endangered species -- we already have more of them than we know what to do with! There are plenty of kids out there who desperately want parents. Want kids? Adopt!
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    Congratulations to the Duggars!!!

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    Thats frickin wild. If she has anymore kids they are just going to crawl out on their own.

    Congrats to them I guess.
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    10 years from now.

    Reporter. "so Mrs Duggar how many in the family now."

    Reply "Thirty tw - SPLAT - Thirty Three."
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    10 years from now.

    Reporter. "so Mrs Duggar how many in the family now."

    Reply "Thirty tw - SPLAT - Thirty Three."
    Now that's funny.

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    Aside from the slip-n-slide comment, I am pretty sure this is her in the delivery room. I mean, after 17 kids, there's bound to be little resistance.


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    Yeah, it's all cool and warm and fuzzy and puts a smile on your face and is great......until they start living off of the government assistance.

    By all means, let it rip until it becomes a problem and you are multiplying outside of your means where you have to ask for assistance from the government like SSI, food stamps, welfare, State assistance programs, etc. Now you're just a burden to everyone else.

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    There you go.

    Some people just take all of the fun out of the process.

    (Just kidding, I think they are twats.)
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    There can be muscle tone problems with the uterus after a certain number of pregnancies, usually about 8-10. The problem increases if there is less than 6-8 weeks after delivery before the next child is conceived. The uterus, like any other muscle, has to have time to relax and recover from the effects of the pregnancy.

    As for VBAC deliveries, if 1 C-Section has been done, the medical literature shows little to no higher risk of complications with VBAC than with a repeat C-Section. And actually, Cesarean deliveries have a much higher risk of complications than vaginal deliveries.

    I think these folks seriously like children. They also do not believe in abortion, or likely do not believe in contraception methods.


    As for overpopulation - a valid concern, but these children will likely all succeed - the odds are in their favor if you really want to break it down.

    Besides, I don't have kids, don't want kids, and don't plan on having them. So someone has to even out the odds right?
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    What's wrong with 17 kids. Maybe there making up for people like me who have none. And if they can provide a loving home, without going on welfare, then all the power to them. So if they want 20 or 30 kids then who am I to judge weather this is right or wrong. As long as they don't ask me to baby sit the tribe, who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allison20 View Post
    As long as they don't ask me to baby sit the tribe, who cares.
    What makes you think that you aren't being asked? I don't know what the equivalent proportion is in Arkansas -- granted, it does have one of the poorest educational sytems in the country -- but, around here, about 40% of my property taxes go towards schooling other people's kids. A portion of my state sales taxes provides other people's kids with subsidized health insurance, and a good chunk of my federal income taxes also goes towards schooling and any number of other programs for other people's kids...

    Just to add insult to injury, they're also getting a break on their income taxes for having all those kids -- despite the fact that they're costing everyone else money.

    You may not be asked to "babaysit" but you and I and everyone else are certainly being asked to subsidize them financially.

    Sorry, but having 17 kids is just plain irresponsible and selfish.
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