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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I grab some photos using my telephoto and call my buddy in the local prosecutor's office to let him know about this. He told me that there is no gang problem in this town. Apparently, the mayor and the police chief went on TV and annoucned that there were no gang members in their town. Denial and ignorance are the friends of criminals.
    That is a very good point about gangs and how communities try to pretend they're not in the area or if they recognize their presence they minimize the impact the gangs are having. I wonder if Newark had taken a "head in the sand" approach to the gangs when they started surfacing. Since I don't live there or in the area I am truly curious if Newark's initial response to gangs was denial/ignorance and if so, did that help create the issues they're facing today. I see communities in the area I live demonstrate similar denial to gangs, the PD is well aware and being proactive, but the residents and press seem to be downplaying it. Any thoughts George, or anyone else familiar with Newark?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvfd27 View Post
    That is a very good point about gangs and how communities try to pretend they're not in the area or if they recognize their presence they minimize the impact the gangs are having. I wonder if Newark had taken a "head in the sand" approach to the gangs when they started surfacing. Since I don't live there or in the area I am truly curious if Newark's initial response to gangs was denial/ignorance and if so, did that help create the issues they're facing today. I see communities in the area I live demonstrate similar denial to gangs, the PD is well aware and being proactive, but the residents and press seem to be downplaying it. Any thoughts George, or anyone else familiar with Newark?
    In my view, there has been no denial at all. They know that is the problem and they have a very aggressive multi-agency anti-gang initiative. The problem is they are outmanned and, very often, outgunned.

    But, as the citizens of Newark are discovering, this is far from solely a law enforcement problem. This is a community problem. Once the members of the community start taking responsibility for the households and their neighborhoods, and refuse to accept this level of violence as "normal", the tide will change.

    I've worked EMS in urban areas and I have had many investigations that have taken me to places like Newark, Camden, Trenton and Jersey City. When you get in there and you actually talk to these people, you find out that the overwhelming majority of them are good, decent people who are stuck in this situation or who do not want to leave. The violent, criminal element and the drug industry is definitely in the minority. The community in Newark is awakening to this reality. I hope it works.

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    this is far from solely a law enforcement problem. This is a community problem. Once the members of the community start taking responsibility for the households and their neighborhoods, and refuse to accept this level of violence as "normal", the tide will change.
    Nah, let's blame the "system" instead.
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    Thanks George, like I said in this area it seems to be the only people concerned with it are the police and the people whose kids are getting caught up in the gangs. The media and others are downplaying it, trying to keep up the image of a safe, happy midwestern heartland city. But, the police are very proactive and for the most part staying on top of things.

    Thanks again for the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    SapphyreBlues, I'm guessing you really don't know much about gangs?

    Consider yourself lucky that you do not have any in your area.
    Yeah, I've been informed of that several times in this thread. Along with the fact that I'm "ignorant", "pathetic", and "clueless". Hey, I was just throwing out ideas and making conversation like everybody else.

    I do consider myself lucky or blessed. Whichever. It's not a perfect place I live in, but at least I can go outside at night without worrying about being shot. Or worse.

    I'll leave this thread with this....May God help them, because whatever they're doing certainly isn't helping. God can help when all else fails. I'll probably get flamed for that remark, but I don't care.

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    If things start to get better up that way, please post about it. I'd really like to see some good news coming from there soon. Y'all might think that sounds stupid coming from someone sitting here in TN while all that's up in NJ. Well there are innocent people up there that don't deserve what they're going through. I have Never heard any of this on the news. And that's sad. Really it is. NJ really isn't that big of a state. And for that many cities - and major ones - to be taken over is terrible. Well not "taken over" but you know what I mean.

    Nonetheless, I don't wanna go back and forth about the "what to do's" anymore. Anyways, if any of y'all from NJ hear about the PD or any task force making headway with those people, please post about it. I don't have time to sit and search for stuff, since I'm busy with my grandma and things around the house. Besides, like I've said, it's not reported on so I'd be busy searching for a while So if y'all don't care pass some info along to me if you hear anything, as I'm interested in how this will turn out.
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    Good solid police work. But this is going to get worse before it gets better. This scumbag is an illegal (imagine that) who has been indicted twice already this year. In July, he was indicted for raping and threatening to kill, a little girl. Strangely, no prosecution official wants to talk about his bail status.

    Don't even ask about the death penalty. We had it, but handled put anyone to death since 1963. Then, the NJ Supreme Court took it away last year.

    Newark slaying suspect pleads not guilty
    NEWARK, N.J. (AP) -- A suspect accused of murdering three college students and wounding a fourth pleaded not guilty today to the crimes.

    Speaking through an Spanish-language interpreter, Jose Carranza said he understood the charges against him. It was his first court appearance since he surrendered Thursday to Mayor Cory A. Booker.

    Carranza, an Orange resident who is from Peru and in the country illegally, could barely be heard in the courtroom, as Booker and relatives of the victims looked on.

    Bail was continued at $1 million for Carranza, and state Superior Court Judge Michael R. Casale ordered that the suspect be held apart from other inmates at the Essex County Jail for his protection.

    Carranza's lawyer, Felix Lopez Montalvo, declined to comment after the 11-minute hearing.

    A second suspect, a 15-year-old boy, has been held pending a detention hearing. Authorities are seeking to have him tried as an adult

    The shootings ratcheted up anger in New Jersey's largest city, where overall crime has declined but where the number of killings continued at last year's pace with 60 homicides so far this year. The killings have prompted billboards in the downtown area that scream, "HELP WANTED: Stop the Killings in Newark Now!"

    Authorities said they hoped to make more arrests in the execution-style killings.

    "We believe that others were involved in this heinous crime," Essex County Prosecutor Paula T. Dow said. "We're looking for them."

    The arrests were disclosed Thursday in a series of dramatic events, which included the direct involvement of the mayor.

    When Carranza, 28, surrendered, "He said no words whatsoever," Booker said. In turn, "I had absolutely nothing to say to this individual."

    On Wednesday night, police arrested the 15-year-old from Newark. Then, during a news conference Thursday announcing that arrest and the search for Carranza, Booker got word that Carranza wanted to surrender.

    Hours later, Carranza, hands cuffed behind his back and wearing a black "Hulkamania" T-shirt and light-colored shorts, was escorted into police headquarters via a back door. He did not respond to questions as he was taken inside.

    Booker said Carranza had at least three prior arrests and was facing an aggravated assault charge in a separate case.

    According to court records obtained by The Star-Ledger of Newark, Carranza was indicted by grand juries in New Jersey twice this year _ in April on aggravated assault and weapons charges; and in July on 31 counts which included aggravated sexual assault of a child under 13 years old and endangering the welfare of a child he had a duty to supervise.

    Authorities do not believe the four victims knew the assailants before encountering them Saturday. Carranza and the teen are not related, Dow said, but she didn't elaborate on how they knew each other. The teen's name was not released because of his age.

    The four victims, friends aged 18 to 20, were shot while visiting in a school yard not far from their homes Saturday night. Authorities have said robbery appeared to be the motive.

    Terrance Aeriel, 18, Dashon Harvey, 20, and Iofemi Hightower, 20, were forced to kneel against a wall and were shot at close range. The fourth victim, 19-year-old Natasha Aeriel, Terrance Aeriel's sister, survived a wound to her head and is hospitalized.

    Despite being under sedation for periods of time, Natasha Aeriel was able to help authorities identify the suspects, the mayor said.

    Officials said fingerprints on a bottle found at the shooting scene and ballistics evidence tied Carranza to the crime. Carranza and the teen were charged with three counts of first degree murder, one count of attempted murder, and other charges.

    Police Director Garry F. McCarthy declined say if authorities had determined who fired shots and what kind of weapon or weapons were used.

    In response to the crime, residents and law enforcement organizations donated $150,000 to aid the victims' families and to a reward fund.

    All four victims were planning to attend Delaware State University this fall. Instead, three were to be buried Saturday in separate services.


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    Good to hear they got some of the people involved in this tragedy. Hopefully, if there are others, they can catch them too. Nothing can bring the 3 lives lost, but at least the families can get some closure knowing those responsible will get what they deserve.

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    Never mind. I was wrong. He didn't do it.

    To his family, an innocent man
    Friday, August 10, 2007
    BY WILLIAM KLEINKNECHT AND BRIAN DONOHUE
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    Ten months ago he was charged with assaulting bar patrons with a broken bottle and a chair.

    Last month, a 31-count indictment accused him of raping a little girl repeatedly over a four-year period and threatening to kill her family.

    Yet for all this, police say, Jose Carranza managed to make bail and stay on the streets long enough to commit the crime that has sent shock waves through the region -- the executions of three college students in a Newark schoolyard Saturday.

    "This is not an individual who should be loose on the streets," Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontoura said. "He needs to be locked away."

    But while police see him as a ruthless killer, neighbors described Carranza as a doting father who was often seen walking with his daughter on the street in the working-class neighborhood in Orange.

    Carranza's three-story house on Lakeside Avenue is clad in light-green aluminum siding, its front yard littered with children's toys and lawn gnomes. In a home with Peruvians on the first floor and Salvadorans on the second, 10 American flags were stuck in the front lawn.

    Carranza lives five doors down from his sister, Diana, who said he worked in demolition, but who had no other details about his employment.

    "He works, he's an honest, quiet person," the sister said as she stood on the steps of her home. The sister said he lived with his wife, his infant daughter, his sister, her two children and his wife's sister.

    A brother, Jesus Larchire, said the family is from northern Peru, but he declined to comment about Carranza's immigration status.

    Marilyn Ward, who lives on the other side of Diana Carranza's house on Lakeside Avenue, said she was shocked when she heard Jose Carranza had been charged with the schoolyard murders.

    "I just can't comprehend that," Ward said. "The man is nothing like that. He's never shown that character at all."

    Ward said Carranza even mowed her lawn and helped her carry heavy furniture. She said he was part of a tight-knit family: "They were very family-oriented." She said she would often go to birthday parties for his many nieces and nephews in his home or his sister's house a few doors down.

    The image of Carranza as a family man and solid neighbor contrasts with the picture painted by his arrest record.

    Carranza, 28, was charged in January with committing a range of sex acts with the girl over a four-year period in Newark, beginning when she was 5. He is also accused of threatening to kill her and her family in what authorities said was an attempt at witness intimidation, according to court records.

    He posted $150,000 bail in February and was released from the Essex County Jail.

    Last month, the sexual assault charges against Carranza resulted in a 31-count indictment that accuses him of aggravated sexual assault, endangering the welfare of a child and other crimes.

    He is accused of having sexual relations with the child, now 9, between 2003 and this year, according to court records. He is charged under a statute reserved for people who assault children under their care, but prosecutors would not comment on his relationship to the child. He is awaiting trial before Superior Court Judge Thomas Vena.

    The same judge is also handling the assault charges, in which Carranza and Persy Leyva, 28, were charged on Oct. 21, 2006, with assaulting four patrons with a broken bottle and a chair at Huguito's, a small Peruvian restaurant and bar at White Street and Ashland Avenue in West Orange, according to court records. He was released from jail after posting $50,000 bail.

    Carranza was charged in the assault case under an alias, Jose Larchire.

    Fontoura said his staff checked Carranza's Social Security number yesterday and found it was bogus.


    SPEAKING UP FOR BROTHER

    Felix Lopez-Montalvo, the attorney who is representing Carranza in all three cases, would not comment. But Carranza's sister, Diana, said her brother was at her home at the time of the killings and turned himself in because he was innocent.

    "What would you do," the sister asked, "would you be on the run or would you turn yourself in?"

    Larchire also said his brother is innocent.

    Larchire said police came to the homes of several family members last night for questioning and took him into custody. After Larchire was released from police custody at 5 a.m., he was watching a Spanish-language television station with his family when they saw the news. Soon afterward, Carranza called to tell his mother he was turning himself in.

    "My mother was worried, so he said, 'Listen, I don't have nothing to do with this,'" Larchire said. "He told my mother, 'Don't worry about it, there's something wrong here.'"

    Larchire said that if Carranza was guilty, he would have fled the country.


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    Kinda throws an interesting twist in things based on his family's statements. But, I have seen in plenty of murder cases that the family says "so and so would never do that and he was with me the whole night"

    But, families will lie to protect their own. But there are alot times the cops and DA go after wrong person. So, it should be interesting to see how this all plays out. Ideally, the right person will get the appropriate punishment in the end.

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    Carranza and the teen are not related, Dow said, but she didn't elaborate on how they knew each other.
    Was this act, (possibly) by the 15 year old, his Gang initiation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Good solid police work. But this is going to get worse before it gets better. This scumbag is an illegal (imagine that) who has been indicted twice already this year. In July, he was indicted for raping and threatening to kill, a little girl. Strangely, no prosecution official wants to talk about his bail status.

    Don't even ask about the death penalty. We had it, but handled put anyone to death since 1963. Then, the NJ Supreme Court took it away last year.
    1.) He's an illegal. 2.) He's been charged with assault. 3.) He's been charged with 31 counts of sexual assault on a child under 13 4.) he's charged with 4 counts of murder.

    The first offense should have been enough to get loser off the street. After all he's ILLEGAL. What part of that don't they understand? And what's worse, all of these charges have come up in the last year.

    And nobody wants to talk of his bail status? Isn't that public information? I know the Kingsport Times News has a big ole For Your Information page that tells who did what to who and where. Even has all the FD calls on it. So is there any way to find out?

    I know that in drug rings they will let certain people "get by" because they "supply information". I can't see that being the case here. If it is indeed so, um, Hello -- these aren't pee ant pot possession charges. These are Felonies!

    As for the death penalty, to quote a comedian, "If you come to Texas and kill somebody, we will kill you back!" TN doesn't do it as often as TX, but we have it. And you will hear NO complaints from me. So NJ doesn't have it anymore. Pity. Because when - or if - the guy is convicted, he'll be staying at the Government Hilton, with expenses paid by the legal, law abiding residents of your state. I don't know if they have anything in NJ where you have to pay to be in prison, but somehow I doubt that Peru is gonna pick up the tab. And if NJ prisons are like some others I've heard of, he'll probably be living better than his victims' families.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    "He works, he's an honest, quiet person," the sister said as she stood on the steps of her home. The sister said he lived with his wife, his infant daughter, his sister, her two children and his wife's sister.

    "I just can't comprehend that," Ward said. "The man is nothing like that. He's never shown that character at all."

    Ward said Carranza even mowed her lawn and helped her carry heavy furniture. She said he was part of a tight-knit family: "They were very family-oriented." She said she would often go to birthday parties for his many nieces and nephews in his home or his sister's house a few doors down.

    The image of Carranza as a family man and solid neighbor contrasts with the picture painted by his arrest record.
    Oh well, you're right, this here just proves that he's innocent, George. He's a fine man.

    Whoa, wait a minute. Isn't this just about the same thing they said about Ted Bundy? John Wayne Gacy? and Jeffrey Dahmer? Weren't they all good neighbors too? And that BTK killer. He was considered an upstanding citizen. Well maybe piece of fodder isn't exactly who they thought he was

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    These are Felonies!
    They are charges, not convictions yet. You can be charged with lots of things and it can all mean nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    They are charges, not convictions yet. You can be charged with lots of things and it can all mean nothing.
    Give her a break. She has already proven a profound ignorance to the way our government works.

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    The latest...

    A third suspect wanted in connection with the execution-style killings of three college students Saturday night in a Newark schoolyard was taken into custody this afternoon, law enforcement sources said.

    The suspect, a juvenile, was removed from a home in Morristown, the sources said.

    Paul Louriquet, a spokesman for the Essex County Prosecutor's Office, said "there have been developments with a third suspect, but not an arrest."

    Investigators believe up to five people participated in the crime, which was chilling enough to thrust New Jersey's largest city into the national spotlight. Jose Larchire Carranza, a 28-year-old illegal immigrant from Peru and a 15-year-old boy are already in custody. Authorities are still looking to question one more adult and one juvenile, law enforcement officials with knowledge of the investigation said.

    This morning, Larchire Carranza, who surrendered to authorities Thursday, pleaded not guilty to three counts of murder, attempted murder, robbery, conspiracy to commit robbery and weapons offenses.

    During the proceedings at the Essex County Courthouse in Newark, Larchire Carranza's lawyer, Felix Lopex-Montalvo, said the defendant does not have a Social Security number and is in the United States illegally.

    "My client has no documentation," said the lawyer, Felix Lopez-Montalvo.

    In a news conference afterward, Essex County Prosecutor Paula Dow and other officials would not comment about whether prosecutors had reported Larchire Carranza's illegal status to federal authorities after his two previous arrests, which include a charge of child rape.

    The federal government encourages, but does not require, local authorities to contact Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents when they arrest someone who appears to be in the country illegally.

    Since Larchire Carranza's surrender yesterday, federal immigration authorities have placed a detainer on him, requiring that immigration authorities be notified if he is ever released from custody, said Adam Puharic, a spokesman for the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

    Dow, meanwhile, said New Jersey would retain jurisdiction over Larchire Carranza throughout this criminal case, and until he finishes his prison sentence if he is convicted.

    "He is not leaving our system until this matter is adjudicated," she said. "We have him and he is ours."

    Dow would not discuss Larchire Carranza's relationship to the 15-year-old arrested Wednesday night or the others being sought.

    Authorities believe five people were present during the robbery and shootings that killed Terrance Aeriel, 18, and 20-year-olds Dashon Harvey and Iofemi Hightower, on the playground of the Mount Vernon School in Newark's Ivy Hill section.

    A fourth victim, Natasha Aeriel, was critically wounded and remains hospitalized under police protection.

    All four were planning to attend Delaware State University in the fall.

    Authorities have said Natasha Aeriel helped identify at least one of the suspects.

    Larchire Carranza, a stocky, bushy-haired man, showed no emotion today as he was arraigned in a courtroom brimming with television cameras, victim's family members and elected officials, including Dow, Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontoura and Newark Mayor Cory Booker.

    He wore an orange jail-issued jumpsuit and handcuffs and communicated via a Spanish-speaking translator. He is being held on $1 million bail.

    Larchire Carranza, an Orange resident, is married and has a daughter described as 1 or 2 years old. He was facing two sets of criminal charges even before police identified him as a suspect in the Newark triple murder.

    According to court records, he was charged with aggravated assault and weapons counts stemming from a bar fight last October. In the more serious case, when he was charged as Jose Larchire, he is accused of repeatedly raping a girl over a four-year period.

    The assaults began when the child was almost 5 years old, according to an indictment handed up last month. The alleged attacks ended in January. Larchire Carranza was free on bail and awaiting trial in both criminal cases when he turned himself in Thursday.

    Larchire Carranza will be held in protective custody in the Essex County Jail. The 15-year-old, whose name is being withheld by The Star-Ledger because of his age, is being held at an undisclosed juvenile detention center outside the county.

    Dow, Fontoura, Booker and others met afterward with victims' family members, who left the courthouse without making comments to reporters. Dow said Booker presented them with a check to help with their funeral expenses.

    Two people who sheriff's officers identified as the mother and the brother of the defendant were also in the courtroom. The mother, whose name was not immediately available, bowed her head and cried.

    After the proceeding, the sheriff's department escorted them to their car through a throng of television cameras.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    They are charges, not convictions yet. You can be charged with lots of things and it can all mean nothing.
    I know that they are just charges and not convictions. There is a big difference. But what I'm saying is if they are just using this guy for info, it seems to me that he's "appearing" to be a bit too dangerous for that. These are not misdemeanor charges. That's what I'm getting at. If he's innocent, then he's innocent. But if he's guilty, then they need to do something with him, and stop using him for info. But that entire situation is just hypothetical. I was just referring to what could be going on, as to why they aren't releasing any info on him.

    Say he knows a lot of gang members he could narc on. That's great. But meanwhile, if they are just letting him go and go, look at what he's doing in the process. If indeed he's guilty.

    Hope I cleared that up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Give her a break. She has already proven a profound ignorance to the way our government works.
    I know the difference between charges and convictions. I obviously didn't make myself clear enough with the way I had it written.

    And thanks for the "ignorance" reference again. As if you haven't said it enough

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    This article has extensive coverage of the prosecutor's office refusal to discuss the bail situation of the illegal alien.

    08/10/07 - Posted from the Daily Record newsroom
    Morristown man arrested in Newark shootings
    STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS

    MORRISTOWN — Agents from the Essex County Prosecutor’s office arrested an individual on Garden Street this afternoon in connection with the schoolyard shootings in Newark.

    “What I have been told is that an arrest was made on Garden Street today of one of the individuals involved in the murders in Newark,” said Mayor Donald Cresitello.

    The mayor said he had no other information on the case and referred any inquires about it to the police department. A call to the the department seeking information was not immediately returned.

    A spokesman for the Essex County Prosecutor's office, Paul Loriquet, confirmed Friday that detectives had arrested a man but said he could not provide any other details. A press conference was scheduled for late Friday night, he said.

    Morris County Prosecutor Robert Bianchi said he learned this afternoon that investigators from Essex County were in Morristown today and took a male into custody. Bianchi said he was waiting for confirmation that the male was connected to the schoolyard shootings of three college students in Newark.

    The Morristown Police Department had cordoned off a three-family home at 8 Garden St. this afternoon and agents from the Essex County Prosecutor were also on the scene.

    One suspect in the murder of the three students pleaded not guilty Friday as prosecutors tried to explain why the illegal immigrant from Peru was granted bail earlier this year when charged with assault and child rape.

    Speaking through a Spanish interpreter, Jose Carranza, 28, said he understood the charges against him, which include the attempted murder of a fourth student and robbery. It was his first court appearance since he surrendered Thursday to Mayor Cory A. Booker.

    A second suspect, a 15-year-old boy, pleaded not guilty Thursday and remains in custody, Assistant Essex County Prosecutor Thomas McTigue said Friday. Authorities are seeking to have the boy tried as an adult.

    Essex County Prosecutor Paula T. Dow would not answer questions about how Carranza was released on bail on previous charges this year, despite his immigration status.

    Carranza was indicted by grand juries in New Jersey twice this year -- in April on aggravated assault and weapons charges; and in July on 31 counts which included aggravated sexual assault of a child under 13 years old and endangering the welfare of a child he had a duty to supervise.

    He was released on $50,000 bail on the assault case, which stemmed from a barroom fight, and $150,000 bail on the sexual assault indictment, which charged that the abuse began in 2003 when the girl was 4 years old and continued to this year.

    “If Essex County had questioned the individuals immigration status, he would not have been released,” Cresitello said. “He would not have been released if they had a 287G agreement with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) which automatically links them with ICE.”

    Cresitello said 287G would deals with this type of arrest.

    “It deals with this absolute situation,” he said. “It does not deal with round ups. It does not deal with day labors.Iit does not deal with civil penalties.”

    In an interview on CNN, Dow said the "uproar" over his immigration status is "going to have to wait for another day."

    "We realize that's an issue out here in our criminal justice system, and we are addressing it," Dow added.

    The assistant prosecutor handling the murder case, Thomas McTigue, said, "Our focus hasn't been his immigration status."

    Prosecutors said they did not immediately recall if Carranza's immigration status was known when he was granted bail on the two indictments, and whether they opposed granting bail.

    It is rare for illegal immigrants to be granted bail, especially when charged with serious crimes, said Alan L. Zegas, a noted New Jersey defense lawyer.

    "The level of risk of flight increases exponentially when a person is not a citizen of this country and has few, if any, roots here," Zegas said.

    On Friday, Carranza, who lives in nearby Orange, could barely be heard in the courtroom, as Booker and relatives of the victims looked on. Carranza wore an orange prison jumpsuit and was handcuffed in front of his body. He stared at the judge and glanced at his lawyer.

    State Superior Court Judge Michael R. Casale continued the $1 million bail and ordered that Carranza be held apart from other inmates at the Essex County Jail for his protection.

    Carranza's lawyer, Felix Lopez Montalvo, declined to comment after the 11-minute hearing.

    Authorities do not believe the four victims knew the assailants before encountering them Saturday night. Carranza and the teen are not related, Dow said, but she didn't elaborate on how they knew each other. The teen's name was not released because of his age.

    The four victims, friends aged 18 to 20, were shot while visiting in a school yard not far from their homes Saturday night. Authorities have said robbery appeared to be the motive.

    Terrance Aeriel, 18, Dashon Harvey, 20, and Iofemi Hightower, 20, were forced to kneel against a wall and were shot at close range. The fourth victim, 19-year-old Natasha Aeriel, Terrance Aeriel's sister, survived a wound to her head and is hospitalized.

    Despite being under sedation for periods of time, Natasha Aeriel was able to help authorities identify the suspects, the mayor said.

    All four victims were planning to attend Delaware State University this fall. Instead, three will be buried Saturday.


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    One suspect in the murder of the three students pleaded not guilty Friday as prosecutors tried to explain why the illegal immigrant from Peru was granted bail earlier this year when charged with assault and child rape.

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    Essex County Prosecutor Paula T. Dow would not answer questions about how Carranza was released on bail on previous charges this year, despite his immigration status.

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    “If Essex County had questioned the individuals immigration status, he would not have been released,” Cresitello said. “He would not have been released if they had a 287G agreement with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) which automatically links them with ICE.”

    Cresitello said 287G would deals with this type of arrest.

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    Prosecutors said they did not immediately recall if Carranza's immigration status was known when he was granted bail on the two indictments, and whether they opposed granting bail.

    It is rare for illegal immigrants to be granted bail, especially when charged with serious crimes, said Alan L. Zegas, a noted New Jersey defense lawyer.
    Ok, lemme get this straight. According to this, they aren't discussing how he got bail. But they said that if they had known he was illegal, they wouldn't have let him post bail. They did not have contact with the ICE, who would have known if he was legal or not. Prosecutors then said they didn't know if his status was known or not when he was released.

    Is it just me or does it sound like they dropped the ball with this guy? I say they aren't answering questions because it makes them look bad. I mean, how hard is it to call somebody?

    The bad thing is, is if he is found guilty of those charges, if they had held him without bail, those could have been prevented. If they had made one phone call to check this guy out, perhaps those people would be alive today I mean, I'm not God, I don't know. But it seems like they would be. And something else. If he could have been held without bail after the bar fight, maybe that little girl could have seen some peace. If he was guilty of it. He's yet to be tried, but you know what I'm saying.

    Just a passing thought....how in the world do you come up with that kind of money to post bail? I know bail is 1/10, but at $50,000 and $150,000 bail, that's still a chunk of change If he went through a bondsman, when he was sent to court a second time, wouldn't that immediately break bond for him - innocent or not, just by having to go to court? Having never been in trouble with the law, I am not sure, that's why I'm asking about the bond revocation thing.

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    Warrant issued for 4th suspect in Newark schoolyard killings
    Posted by Jonathan Schuppe and Mark DiIonno
    August 11, 2007 9:50PM


    On the same day Newark buried three victims of last week's schoolyard slayings, authorities today identified a 24-year-old Nicaraguan national with a record of robbery and weapons arrests as a "principal player" in the execution-style attack.

    Rodolfo Godinez, who lives in the city's Ivy Hill neighborhood where the killings occurred, has been the subject of an intense manhunt since Friday, when detectives obtained an arrest warrant charging him with murder, robbery and weapons offenses, authorities said.

    Godinez, who also goes by the name Rodolfo Gomez, is the fourth suspect identified in the killings and remained at large last night. Investigators are continuing to search for him as well as two other suspects -- both teenagers, according to two law enforcement sources who asked not to be identified because they are not allowed to speak publicly about the case.

    Three people are already under arrest: Jose Lachira Carranza, of Orange, a 28-year-old illegal immigrant from Peru, and two juveniles: a 15-year-old boy from Newark and a 15-year-old boy from Morristown. Essex County Prosecutor Paula Dow has said she expects the other suspects will be arrested by the end of this week.

    Authorities released Godinez's name and photograph yesterday morning, at the same time funeral services were being held for Dashon Harvey, 20, Terrance Aeriel, 18, and Iofemi Hightower, 20. Aeriel's sister, 19-year-old Natasha, was shot in the face, but survived. She remains hospitalized, but has been helping investigators identify the attackers.

    All four victims were preparing to attend Delaware State University this fall and dozens of students from the college attended yesterday's services.

    Mayor Cory Booker, Police Director Garry McCarthy and Essex County Prosecutor Paula Dow, all of whom attended the funerals, held an impromptu news conference at Branch Brook Park in Newark after Harvey's funeral, the morning's first. They said they interrupted their schedule to ask the public's assistance in tracking down Godinez.

    "Obviously, our focus is on the three funerals, but we broke away because we need the public's help," Booker said. "We're going to find (Godinez), we're going to find all of them and bring them to justice."

    Authorities continue to offer a $150,000 reward for information leading to the killers' arrest and inditcment. The case was also featured tonight on Fox television's America's Most Wanted (www.amw.com).

    McCarthy called Godinez a "principal player" in the attack, which occurred last Saturday night as the four friends were hanging out behind the Mount Vernon School. The attackers announced a robbery, shot Natasha Aeriel, then marched the others to a wall, where they shot each of them once in the back of the head.

    Hightower also had knife wounds to her face and arm, which authorities say may have been inflicted by a machete.

    Godinez has lived on Midland Avenue and Manor Drive in Newark, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement records indicated he may have also been in the country illegally. Rodolfo Antonio Godinez Gomez entered the U.S. from Nicaragua on Oct. 24, 1992. He was ordered deported on May 5, 1993, but it isn't clear if he ever left the country, according to Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontura.

    "It seems to me that he was illegal," he said tonight.

    Godinez was first arrested as a juvenile on June 21, 1999 in South Orange for robbery which was downgraded to theft for which he got 18 months probation. In September 2002, he was arrested in Irvington for aggravated assault, robbery and weapons possession. He was indicted but its not clear what happened after that. In April 2003, he was arrested for robbery in Newark which was downgraded to theft and got 18 months probation, Essex County records show.

    Authorities have been arresting and identifying the alleged attackers since getting their first big break in the case: lifting a fingerprint from a Colt 45 beer bottle that was left at the crime scene. They matched the print to Carranza, whom Natasha Aeriel identified in a photo array from her hospital bed. While searching for Carranza, they came across the 15-year-old Newark boy, who admitted his role in the crime and named other accomplices, the law enforcement sources said.

    Near Godinez's home on Midland Avenue yesterday, neighbors said it was not uncommon to see him sitting on the stoop of the pale red brick house where he rented a second floor apartment for $975 per month with his mother, Gloria.

    He would sit with friends, hanging out, smoking cigarettes, they said. But since the shootings the group has been out of sight. Officers, however, have made several visits to the property over the last several days.

    Staff writer Katie Wang contributed to this report.


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