Why register? ...To Enhance Your Experience
+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 64
  1. #1
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default school shooting in NJ?

    I just found this. AP released it just a few hours ago...

    school shooting

    The year has JUST begun and already it's happening What's wrong with people??!!


  2. #2
    Forum Member ndvfdff33's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Winterpeg Manitoba
    Posts
    2,461

    Default

    School already???

    Damn our schools are not even back in for another month. When do they get out for summer?
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

    Ryan

  3. #3
    Forum Member st42stephenAFT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    NoVA / NJ
    Posts
    747

    Default

    Wow... that's horrible. And to think I'm looking at colleges up that way....


  4. #4
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    School already???

    Damn our schools are not even back in for another month. When do they get out for summer?
    The Bristol, TN City Schools got out somewhere around the last week of May. The Sullivan County school system went back Monday (yesterday) but Bristol's won't go back until the 9th, which I Thursday, I think.

  5. #5
    Forum Member RspctFrmCalgary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Now in Victoria, BC. I'm from beautiful Jasper Alberta in the heart of the Can. Rockies - will always be an Albertan at heart!
    Posts
    6,329

    Default

    This wasn't your typical school shooting. It was late at night. Incredibly tragic, yes, but I don't think it should be thought of as a "school" shooting. It could have been anywhere young adults hang out at night, but happened to be in a schoolyard.
    September 11th - Never Forget

    I respect firefighters and emergency workers worldwide. Thank you for what you do.

    Sheri
    IACOJ CRUSTY CONVENTION CHAIR
    Honorary Flatlander

    RAY WAS HERE FIRST

  6. #6
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default

    Well yeah, that's true. Perhaps AP should modify their headline. Anyways, it's still scary

    As for actual school shootings, I hope it doesn't happen, but the way things are going you can tell one isn't far off.

  7. #7
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Flanders, NJ
    Posts
    13,537

    Default

    This was NOT a school shooting. This was four people sitting in a school playground listening to music. Several men surrounded them, shot one female, lined the other three up against a wall, allegedly robbed them, and shot them in the heads execution style.

    Newark and the surrounding Essex County towns like Irvington, EO, Orange, etc. have become more lawless than ever. Gangs have taken over and are administering their "justice" on a nightly basis. IMO, there is no hope for this city. They can build all the arenas, stadiums and concert halls they want. The criminals have won.

  8. #8
    Forum Member RspctFrmCalgary's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    Now in Victoria, BC. I'm from beautiful Jasper Alberta in the heart of the Can. Rockies - will always be an Albertan at heart!
    Posts
    6,329

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SapphyreBlues View Post
    Well yeah, that's true. Perhaps AP should modify their headline. Anyways, it's still scary

    As for actual school shootings, I hope it doesn't happen, but the way things are going you can tell one isn't far off.

    I was referring to the direction I saw the discussion going, not your thread title.

    Thanks, George. That's what I was trying to get across.
    September 11th - Never Forget

    I respect firefighters and emergency workers worldwide. Thank you for what you do.

    Sheri
    IACOJ CRUSTY CONVENTION CHAIR
    Honorary Flatlander

    RAY WAS HERE FIRST

  9. #9
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    This was NOT a school shooting. This was four people sitting in a school playground listening to music. Several men surrounded them, shot one female, lined the other three up against a wall, allegedly robbed them, and shot them in the heads execution style.

    Newark and the surrounding Essex County towns like Irvington, EO, Orange, etc. have become more lawless than ever. Gangs have taken over and are administering their "justice" on a nightly basis. IMO, there is no hope for this city. They can build all the arenas, stadiums and concert halls they want. The criminals have won.
    That's terrible. Is there any type of curfew the PD can enforce? Yeah, building stadiums and stuff will just give them clean walls to paint on Don't they have a gang task force like some other cities do? Perhaps they should get one

    But yeah, I read school yard shooting, and thought, here we go again. Even after reading the story. It was late, I was tired, and more than that, sick and tired. You'd like to think you could send your kids to school without worrying about them getting blown away.

  10. #10
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Flanders, NJ
    Posts
    13,537

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SapphyreBlues View Post
    That's terrible. Is there any type of curfew the PD can enforce? Yeah, building stadiums and stuff will just give them clean walls to paint on Don't they have a gang task force like some other cities do? Perhaps they should get one

    But yeah, I read school yard shooting, and thought, here we go again. Even after reading the story. It was late, I was tired, and more than that, sick and tired. You'd like to think you could send your kids to school without worrying about them getting blown away.
    Yeah, the Newark PD is trying to work with the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and Latin Kings to set up a 10 PM curfew.

  11. #11
    Forum Member BFDNJFF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Iraq
    Posts
    1,508

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Yeah, the Newark PD is trying to work with the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and Latin Kings to set up a 10 PM curfew.
    Thanks George I think I just ****ed myself.
    ******=================
    ******================
    ******=================
    ******================
    =======================
    =======================
    =======================

    ------GOD BLESS AMERICA ! ------

  12. #12
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    'Tween the Mississippi & St Croix
    Posts
    141

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Yeah, the Newark PD is trying to work with the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and Latin Kings to set up a 10 PM curfew.
    A gent I knew who was a city councilman (for about a week) had a good idea: Take all the gangs, lock them in the local stadium with all the guns, ammo and whatever other implements of destruction they may choose to have available, come back in 72 hours and arrest the survivors.
    He made this comment in open Council chambers and was the subject of the fastest recall in California history.

    Back to You, Walter.

    Be safe, Y'all

    Jimmy
    Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt. (When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults!)

  13. #13
    Forum Member Bones42's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Pt. Beach, NJ
    Posts
    10,645

    Default

    I still find it amusing that someone from Tennessee read a news clip from an Arizona newspaper, about a shooting in NJ. Damn, there's a lotta miles in that story.

    SapphyreBlues, you are correct. It is a shame that "we" have to worry about kids getting shot in school. Newark is not a pretty place. There are a couple nice areas, but for the most part, it's a place to avoid.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

  14. #14
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Yeah, the Newark PD is trying to work with the Crips, Bloods, MS-13 and Latin Kings to set up a 10 PM curfew.
    Well what I was getting at is this. If they're only hanging around the PD can't arrest them. They can only do that if they are caught committing a crime. so if they're loitering around after curfew, it gives them a reason to arrest them, thus getting them off the street. If they resist arrest, well the PD isn't issued clubs and guns for nothing

    I thought the Tuscon newspaper thing was strange too. But that's the AP page I got it from

    I couldn't imagine having kids nowadays. To tell you the truth, I worry about my cats when they're outside. I'd go nuts if I had kids in school.
    Last edited by SapphyreBlues; 08-07-2007 at 02:51 PM.

  15. #15
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Flanders, NJ
    Posts
    13,537

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Bones42 View Post
    I still find it amusing that someone from Tennessee read a news clip from an Arizona newspaper, about a shooting in NJ. Damn, there's a lotta miles in that story.

    SapphyreBlues, you are correct. It is a shame that "we" have to worry about kids getting shot in school. Newark is not a pretty place. There are a couple nice areas, but for the most part, it's a place to avoid.
    Once you eat the Portugeuse food Down Neck, you will be hooked forever.

  16. #16
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Flanders, NJ
    Posts
    13,537

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SapphyreBlues View Post
    Well what I was getting at is this. If they're only hanging around the PD can't arrest them. They can only do that if they are caught committing a crime. so if they're loitering around after curfew, it gives them a reason to arrest them, thus getting them off the street. If they resist arrest, well the PD isn't issued clubs and guns for nothing

    I thought the Tuscon newspaper thing was strange too. But that's the AP page I got it from

    I couldn't imagine having kids nowadays. To tell you the truth, I worry about my cats when they're outside. I'd go nuts if I had kids in school.
    You honest to God don't have even a remote clue, do you?

  17. #17
    Forum Member Bones42's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Pt. Beach, NJ
    Posts
    10,645

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Once you eat the Portugeuse food Down Neck, you will be hooked forever.
    That is true. My ex-brother in law came here from Portugal. Many trips up there.
    "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

  18. #18
    Forum Member SapphyreBlues's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Tennessee
    Posts
    367

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    You honest to God don't have even a remote clue, do you?
    As to gang warfare, I can say, Thank God I don't. I live in a town that's pretty safe. I was just tossing random ideas out. I know you can't keep people for loitering. But the resisting arrest for doing it - and you know they would resist - could get you a bit more time off the street. But far more often than not, I suppose it just results in a dead policeman.

    They need to get some anti-gang techs in there. But if it's nearly as bad as what y'all have said, it may just be too late. All I can say is just wait around for them to break out in a complete gang war and they'll just kill each other off. Until the next generation is recruited.

    If it gets really bad, do you suppose they could put it under martial law for a while? Bring in the military and tell them they gotta do what they gotta do to clear the streets of those people? Sounds like an idea to me.

    Anyways, like I said, I was just putting out random thoughts about it.

  19. #19
    MembersZone Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jul 1999
    Location
    Flanders, NJ
    Posts
    13,537

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SapphyreBlues View Post
    As to gang warfare, I can say, Thank God I don't. I live in a town that's pretty safe. I was just tossing random ideas out. I know you can't keep people for loitering. But the resisting arrest for doing it - and you know they would resist - could get you a bit more time off the street. But far more often than not, I suppose it just results in a dead policeman.

    They need to get some anti-gang techs in there. But if it's nearly as bad as what y'all have said, it may just be too late. All I can say is just wait around for them to break out in a complete gang war and they'll just kill each other off. Until the next generation is recruited.

    If it gets really bad, do you suppose they could put it under martial law for a while? Bring in the military and tell them they gotta do what they gotta do to clear the streets of those people? Sounds like an idea to me.

    Anyways, like I said, I was just putting out random thoughts about it.
    An anti-gang initiative....I wonder why Newark PD -with 3-5 gang-related shootings a week-didn't think of that?

    I was right. You don't have a clue.

  20. #20
    MembersZone Subscriber voyager9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Southern NJ
    Posts
    2,007

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by JimMccarthy View Post
    A gent I knew who was a city councilman (for about a week) had a good idea: Take all the gangs, lock them in the local stadium with all the guns, ammo and whatever other implements of destruction they may choose to have available, come back in 72 hours and arrest the survivors.
    Then they can sell a video game based on the event and solve all their budget problems.
    So you call this your free country
    Tell me why it costs so much to live
    -3dd

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 13
    Last Post: 06-01-2005, 08:43 AM
  2. Highschool School bans hugging. whats next?
    By HeavyRescueTech in forum The Off Duty Forums
    Replies: 53
    Last Post: 05-19-2005, 09:30 PM
  3. School Shooting - FD Response
    By Icerader in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 03-22-2001, 11:09 PM
  4. Ca High School Shooting
    By mark440 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 03-14-2001, 05:32 PM
  5. Another school shooting...
    By jizumper-5 in forum Firefighters Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 03-09-2001, 05:39 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts