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    Want to get SOP info on ALL OUT EVAC PROCEDURE UTILIZING HORN BLASTS from apparatus on the scene. Please respond back with your Dept's. SOP on this. If you know of or have any video with this being used I would be interested thx mike.
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    Not prepared to give you our formal SOP at this time, however a few things that come to mind... Horn blasts from apparatus are used but because the direction of the sound travel may or may not place the loudness of the blast where you need it(in the direction of the building), we also use hand held air horns. The Command Assistant or the Accountability Officer uses a hand held air horn, like the ones used at a football game,and engages it at either the doorway or the basement windows, or where ever crews are operating at the time of the Evac Order. The Engine guys also pulse the hose lines three times in case noise or distance do not allow attack crews to hear the horn blasts. Of course, radios are also used.

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    I'll have to check if we have an exact SOP on this. I'll post it if I can find one.

    But we use 3 5-second air horn blasts by the closest apparatus (to the alpha division I believe, but not sure).


    I only heard it used once, at a FAST run we were at. We arrived and were walking to set up when they ordered the evac. It worked.

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    No SOP needed...

    The standardized evacuation signal for all 363 FD's in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is 30 seconds of air horns from all apparatus on scene.

    My FD prefaces it with an "urgent" message from the IC to evacuate the building. With the cacaphony of noise coming from the air horns, there's no mistaking the fact that it's time to "get the hell outta Dodge!"
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    All apparatus on scene blast their air hornes(it's quite a lovely sound in person, videos with sound of it don't give it any justice...hehe), plus command gives repeated radio traffic to evac

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    No SOP needed...

    The standardized evacuation signal for all 363 FD's in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is 30 seconds of air horns from all apparatus on scene.

    My FD prefaces it with an "urgent" message from the IC to evacuate the building. With the cacaphony of noise coming from the air horns, there's no mistaking the fact that it's time to "get the hell outta Dodge!"
    Wow, an intelligent statewide mandate? Who'd thunk! So there is at least one advantage to being a "People's Republic" vs. a state.

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    For evac we do the following:

    IC instructs apparatus operator to sound 3 air horn blasts repeated 3 times, IC also has dispatch send out alert tone over fireground channel and then annouce 3 times: All units operating at _____________evacuate the fire building at this time.

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    After the building has been evacuated, conduct a PAR to make sure all personnel are accounted for.

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    another idea is the grace accountability system, which is basically another pass device on your gear. Basically, if you quit moving for 20 seconds, it sends an alarm to a box that the IC sets up and puts your unit number in alarm mode.. a la Command to Engine 26-C, your in alarm. If you dont reply, they send out a mayday.

    But also, it can emit an evacuation tone. That way, say something is wrong with the radio and its too noisy to hear the air horns, the evac tone, which is coming from the shoulder strap where the grace T-PASS goes will let you know to get yo butt out of there.

    But, from what I understand, its pretty costly. But, when it comes to firefighter safety, is anything too costly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    No SOP needed...

    The standardized evacuation signal for all 363 FD's in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is 30 seconds of air horns from all apparatus on scene.

    My FD prefaces it with an "urgent" message from the IC to evacuate the building. With the cacaphony of noise coming from the air horns, there's no mistaking the fact that it's time to "get the hell outta Dodge!"
    Hey, you stole our system! Radio alert combined with 30 seconds of short blasts by every rig.
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    Our is supposed to be a 60 second horn blast, but most of our newer trucks will not blow for that long.

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    No horn blasts here. Simple radio communications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    No SOP needed...

    The standardized evacuation signal for all 363 FD's in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is 30 seconds of air horns from all apparatus on scene.

    My FD prefaces it with an "urgent" message from the IC to evacuate the building. With the cacaphony of noise coming from the air horns, there's no mistaking the fact that it's time to "get the hell outta Dodge!"
    Yeah what he said. And yell it out over the radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisE34a View Post
    No horn blasts here. Simple radio communications.
    What if Old Murph pays a visit?

    From my collection of Murphy's Laws of firefighting...

    Radios crap out at the worst possible moment.
    There's no mistaking the get the hell outta Dodge signal that comes from every rig blasting the air horns. When you are inside and deep and hear it... it takes on a much higher sense of urgency (been there, done that!)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    What if Old Murph pays a visit?
    I hear ya. I don't make the rules.
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    Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.

    "Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    What if Old Murph pays a visit?

    From my collection of Murphy's Laws of firefighting...



    There's no mistaking the get the hell outta Dodge signal that comes from every rig blasting the air horns. When you are inside and deep and hear it... it takes on a much higher sense of urgency (been there, done that!)!

    I hear you on that one! I was in the basement of the Bernat Mill General Alarm fire when the apparatus horns started blowing, I found out once I was outside my portables collar mic got wet and wasn't working. I'm glad we use the air horns in addition to the radio announcement.

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    we have a county wide system in place for king county, washington

    5 second horn blasts from all apparatus repeated 3 times
    IC puts out a radio call for an evacuation and then dispatch puts out a warbling tone over the radios repeated 3 times for about 3 seconds each
    also, our department also uses airhorns at the entrance to the structure along with the apparatus horns

    only used this in a drill so far, and even inside the a structure it is VERY noticable
    there is no mistaking it for something other than get you butt out

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    Yes we have the Grace system,,,however first time it was activated was luckyily in a training burn, 2 different FF'ers both thought the PASS alarm had just activated itself due to malfunction instead of recognizing the different sound and knowing to get out. So believe me unless you have intelligent people implementing the systems that are going to actually train the FF'ers the systems are useless,,,I'll stick with the air horns. No mistaking, and i say BS to people who say, oh you can't hear it,,, random air horn mixed with the screaming of a frantic chief spells only one thing, accelerate to an exit. NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geinandputitout View Post
    Our is supposed to be a 60 second horn blast, but most of our newer trucks will not blow for that long.
    Just a question for those of you that propose 30 or 60 second continuous air horn blasts from every rig on the scene. During that 30 to 60 second time period, you have effectively eliminated the possibility of using the radios because of the amount of noise you are generating. I support the use of air horn blasts for an evac signal, but certainly not continuously for 30 to 60 seconds, and probably not from every rig on the scene.

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