Gentlemen......... Where the Hell do I start??......... I guess I'll start with agreeing with the Brother that said we need to see the WHOLE Report, and digest the information in it, before engaging in a bunch of Bychin back and forth at each other. My Department has ways of doing things, and I won't remotely suggest that we are Right. Or Wrong. I won't suggest that what we do will work for some other Department. It Might. Or, it might not. Here's some things that work FOR US, and a few thoughts from the back of my mind, some regarding items that I've noticed here.
Water Supply. Our operations require the First Engine to go to Side 1, Side Alpha, The Front of the Building, or what ever you want to call it. That Engine WILL lay a Supply Line (3 inch) on the way in. The Second Engine WILL pick up that line and pump it from the Hydrant. Third Engine will lay to the rear, Fourth Engine WILL pump his line......... You get the Idea.
I can't comment on Booster Lines, we haven't bought a Booster Reel (except the Brush Unit) since 1969.
Does anyone think that a Hydrant only having Two 2.5 Outlets can exist on a ISO Class 1 Water System?? I don't.
I've been in Command on a few Fires over the Years. I've used the Incident Command System since the 1970s, and I've NEVER found it necessary to appoint a Logistics Officer. Actually, there are a lot of Positions that I haven't filled on the Chart, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T NEEDED ON THAT INCIDENT. ICS IS A GREAT TOOL. But it is composed of Subjective Guidelines. It is NOT set in Stone.
When you are the Incident Commander, you ABSOLUTELY must have a better plan than the Fire has.
When I am the Incident Commander I MUST be easily recognized as such, even by total strangers.
Since the beginning of Civilization, Fire has been best extinguished by Water. LOTS of Water, the more you get, the better off you are.
A Chief accomplishes more by coordinating the efforts of others, not doing it all by himself.
We CAN stop repeating History, We just have to work harder.
These are a few things that I put a lot of Faith in. If they work for you, fine. If not, make adjustments, adapt, and overcome. Stay Safe Out There.
LDH, Seatbelts,and a lot of recs.
Ok, the following is what I know from talking to several charleston firefighters several years ago:
What I was told is that they used dual lines or sometimes just one 3inch line due to narrow streets and an older water system. That is all I know about water supply from the CFD. With that said my former department used dual 3inch lines because of narrow streets and a limited water supply in the area.
As far as the seatbelt thing goes....I have no idea how a seatbelt was to be used inside a structure fire. (sorry FFFred).
I will say this. In light of this tragedy I stand by the families of the fallen and hope to g-d that we can all learn from this and that a large loss of life can be prevented.
-Stay safe and let us all learn something from this