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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    Pat Tillman is no different than any other Tom, Dick, or Harry that gave his life for his country........

    Well, you're wrong. He's no better, but he is different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    They all talk crap about Bush

    example being Michael Moore
    And which ones even come close to Nugent's syphlittic rage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Well, you're wrong. He's no better, but he is different.
    Couldn't agree more.
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    this is a firematic site not POLITICAL START NEW SITE FOR THIS

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    Quote Originally Posted by npgert5819 View Post
    this is a firematic site not POLITICAL START NEW SITE FOR THIS

    ummmm noob thats why its in the off duty section. if you don't like it then don't read it !
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    this is actually my on-duty section and everything else is off duty to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    First off it freaks me out that Nugent still has concerts. Secondly, I think his actions can hardly be called a proper display of firearm presentation (can't wait to see it on the NRA website), thirdly I can imagine if a Dem did the same and spoke of Bush they'd be getting a visit from the Secret Service.

    Lastly, he sounds like someone in the final throes of syphillitic rage.
    Two names come to mind - Gore and Dean..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    some would say Damn.... why did I think of that....

    Name one of the current batch of stars, who when the war started, took up arms? Other than Tillman


    Then again, one could also state that since Iraq never directly attacked the US, why take up arms? But, thats a different story


    hehehe
    Did Germany directly attack the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Are any of the current group of stars saying about conservative candidates:

    heís a piece of s***. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey (Fill in name here)! You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.
    Not in exactly those words, but darn close to it and just as derogatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Did Germany directly attack the US?
    No they didn't. However, they did attack American allies. And those countries had asked for our assistance.

    Since you're going to use that analogy. Which countries asked us to invade Iraq pre-emptively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Not in exactly those words, but darn close to it and just as derogatory.
    Only proving the denunciations of hate speech by the right wing pundits is hypocritical since none of the right wing gas bags has condemned Nugent's remarks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Well, you're wrong. He's no better, but he is different.
    Why is he different?? He quit his job and joined the military......Thousands of people did that after 9/11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    Why is he different?? He quit his job and joined the military......Thousands of people did that after 9/11
    If it has to be explained to you, you don't understand.
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    No, I dont understand or I wouldnt have asked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    No, I dont understand or I wouldnt have asked

    Mostly because he was on easy street, a millionaire. He was in a position of fame and fortune, and he did everything that he could to avoid publicity about himself. Everything that he did was motivated by humility, from his enlistment, all the way thru his unfortunate death. Even his time in the NFL, he was a class act. He worked very hard, was educated, and was a dedicated teammate.
    He, along with his brother left in the night, to meet with a recruiter far away from Phoenix, or his home, in order to not be on a highlight reel. He was always quick to defer attention away from himself.

    The question that you have to ask yourself, is how many 'normal' people, with good quality jobs, and families, gave it all up to serve in the active duty Army, with the intent of being a Ranger. I know exactly zero who fit this bill. Sure, many people joined the reserves, and God bless them for that decision. What Pat did was walk away from millions of dollars and his new wife, and he did so with humility.

    I never said he was better, and I will never say it in the future. He is different though, because of his situation. He is different because he demonstrated what sacrifice truly is, and is someone with whom everyone can look up to, whether you support the military or not.

    Honestly, with all that I have read about the man, he would be embarased that he was even mentioned in the way that we're talking about him right now. He was a class act thru and thru, and is an athlete and person that can be looked up to.
    He is no better than any other soldier, sailor, airmen, or Marine, but his story is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Mostly because he was on easy street, a millionaire. He was in a position of fame and fortune, and he did everything that he could to avoid publicity about himself. Everything that he did was motivated by humility, from his enlistment, all the way thru his unfortunate death.
    To reinforce the point of his humility. Because he was college educated he was offered the opportunity to be an officer and turned it down. He wanted to ensure he would be on the tip of the spear.

    May he rest in peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    To reinforce the point of his humility. Because he was college educated he was offered the opportunity to be an officer and turned it down. He wanted to ensure he would be on the tip of the spear.

    May he rest in peace.

    A very good point. I echo your sentiments.

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    Did Germany directly attack the US?
    Did the US, even though having laws to prohibit it from supporting wars of which it was not involved at the time, give Britain ships, planes, and fuel through the lend lease act?

    The US did the same during the Russian Afgan war but did Russia declare war on the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHR1985 View Post
    Did the US, even though having laws to prohibit it from supporting wars of which it was not involved at the time, give Britain ships, planes, and fuel through the lend lease act?

    The US did the same during the Russian Afgan war but did Russia declare war on the US?
    They were aligned with a nation that did attack the US directly. The same can't be said of Iraq and 9/11.
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    Name one of the current batch of stars, who when the war started, took up arms? Other than Tillman
    Eh? You're comparing WW2 to Bush's unmerited invasion of Iraq? Why do you guys keep doing stupid stuff like that??

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