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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    I live in a rural area where nearly everyone hunts, even know a few who get "camp meat" sometimes out of season. We eat because we like it. Sort of like the granola crunchers eat granola cause they like it. We don't have many native granola crunchers. We also get the flat landers that come up and pretend to be hunters. Those guys are the biggest reason I stay out of the woods in certain areas. A lot of NYC folks come here and trophy hunt . Saw a group one time that shot a small deer and left it because it wasn't what they wanted. No horns. It is typical of the flat landers to shoot first and look second. The real hunters make sure of their target first. Most of your anti-hunters have lost touch with reality. They go to the store to buy their meat, they are hidden from where it comes from. And that is why they don't understand or comprehend hunting. Although in the big cities they hunt each other.
    Like I asked. What is the great feeling one gets from shooting an animal from a very safe distance that would have never been a threat to them? It is hunters who lost touch with reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieB View Post
    I get a kick out of him, he's funny and pulls no punches.....and his music is pretty "dern" good.
    I agree. He's a POS, drop your pants, shock entertainer whose career lamp is on its last flicker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Not surprisingly you miss the point. The point is Bush was offered Bin Laden and missed the opportunity. Perhaps you and Cornfed Buck should PM each other and get your stories straight. If Clinton was offered Bin Laden and turned him down, why is that worse when Bush had the same opportunity.
    The Ottawa Citizen

    February 5, 2001 Monday FINAL EDITION

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    The Taliban authorities will consider sending Osama bin Laden, the Saudi-born terrorist behind the World Trade Center bombing, to a third country if the West will recognize them as Afghanistan's legitimate government.

    "We hope the new American administration will be more flexible and engage with us," said Abdul Wakil Muttawakil, the Taliban foreign minister, as new UN sanctions begin to squeeze the hardline group.

    Mr. Muttawakil has written to President George W. Bush saying his administration is prepared to resolve the Bin Laden issue through negotiations.

    General Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan's military ruler, said the suggestion of sending Bin Laden abroad appeared workable. He added it was not clear which country might provide sanctuary to the world's most wanted terrorist but Yemen had been mentioned.Pakistan is the closest ally of the conservative administration.
    Again, you miss the point. How could the Taliban have offered up the man suspected of Bombing the WTC 7 months before it happened?

    As for the hunting thing, some people get the same thrill from hugging a tree or getting their next load of tofu and granola bars. What is the big thrill there? Most of the good hunters here spend weeks or months scouting the area and learning the habit of the prey. It's no more senseless than the chucklehead who climbs the mountain just to get to the top and then come back down. How senseless is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Like I asked. What is the great feeling one gets from shooting an animal from a very safe distance that would have never been a threat to them? It is hunters who lost touch with reality.
    The thrill is that you are eating good tonight and you have captured the prey that you have been after for months. Of course the city types walk into the woods and shot the first thing that moves. Of course, I don't need a high powered rifle and months in the woods. All I need is a car at 55mph and it lures them right in. Of course if you have never been to hunting camp you wouldn't understand at all.

    By the way SC, I updated the Global Warming thread t ogive you some factual data that shows there is no consensus in the scientific community. In fact only 7% agree there is some man made global warming. And many have changed their minds. Another fallacy for the liberals. Why must they always try to mislead us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    Again, you miss the point. How could the Taliban have offered up the man suspected of Bombing the WTC 7 months before it happened?
    I know it might be difficult for you to grasp the point? Bin Laden was wanted BEFORE 9/11.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    As for the hunting thing, some people get the same thrill from hugging a tree or getting their next load of tofu and granola bars.
    Sounds like someone who has inadequacies in their life.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    What is the big thrill there? Most of the good hunters here spend weeks or months scouting the area and learning the habit of the prey.
    And outwitting an animal down the food chain is exhilirating? You reinforce my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    It's no more senseless than the chucklehead who climbs the mountain just to get to the top and then come back down. How senseless is that?
    And how many animals get killed for no good reason when someone climbs a mountain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    By the way SC, I updated the Global Warming thread t ogive you some factual data that shows there is no consensus in the scientific community. In fact only 7% agree there is some man made global warming. And many have changed their minds. Another fallacy for the liberals. Why must they always try to mislead us?
    And I gave it the response it deserves.
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    I get a kick out of him, he's funny and pulls no punches.....and his music is pretty "dern" good.
    He's a good guitar player and musician (in his genre)...but that's about it. I have nothing against good rock and roll. But the man is insane...and it's only gotten worse in recent years. The man has paranoia written all over him.
    Uncle Ted dosent kill for fun, he kills for food and the joys of being in the great outdoors.
    That's about the funniest thing I've read in a long while. The man sets up canned hunts for richie-riches to get their jollies off, charging outlandish rates for killing kept animals. You know...just like Cheney likes to do. It's disgusting. You don't have a clue what you're writing about, do you?

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    So I take it you, Scfire and Nozzleman, are vegitarians??
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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    I know it might be difficult for you to grasp the point? Bin Laden was wanted BEFORE 9/11.
    I understand Bin Laden was wanted before 9-11. Read your article dated 2-5-2001. In the article that was written in February of 2001 they refer to Bin Laden as the man who masterminded the 9-11-2001 attack. It points out that the article you provide is a fake. Therefore, your evidence is garbage.


    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Sounds like someone who has inadequacies in their life.


    And outwitting an animal down the food chain is exhilirating? You reinforce my point.


    And how many animals get killed for no good reason when someone climbs a mountain?
    Just so you know, I used to hunt, I found that the effort required wasn't worth the thrill. But hey, a lot of people get thrills from different things. We have to respect that diversity in our society. I can respect that those who hunt enjoy it. I also like the fact that I usually end up with a few venison steaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    So I take it you, Scfire and Nozzleman, are vegitarians??
    Nope, they dislike diversity and those who disagree with them. Then again, they believe in fairy tales like Global Warming, War for oil, and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Like I asked. What is the great feeling one gets from shooting an animal from a very safe distance that would have never been a threat to them? It is hunters who lost touch with reality.
    Ahhh Geeez....

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    So basically, if they are not vegitarians, they are lazy and like other people to do their dirty work...Im not afraid to spend week after week in the outdoors scouting my favorite game and get my hands bloody harvesting it. It makes it taste that much better when its on my plate. Its called the joys of life and hard work. Ill bet you feel really good when you cut into that ribeye that you spent 25 minutes grilling dont you? Only one word that can be used to discribe someone like these 2 HYPOCRITE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    So I take it you, Scfire and Nozzleman, are vegitarians??
    Not at all. But you aren't going to compare the way animals are slaughtered in an abattoir versus being shot at long range with a huge technological advantage.

    At least not with a straight face.
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    We have to respect that diversity in our society. I can respect that those who hunt enjoy it. I also like the fact that I usually end up with a few venison steaks.
    Do you see me saying that hunting should be banned? If someone wants to get their jollies out of killing a prey animal at long distance with a HUGE technological advantage I have no problem with that. I just question what breakdown they have in their empty lives that would cause something like that to be exciting. I get a hoot when I see deer hunters wearing camoflauge. This is especially funny since deer are color blind. Who are they hiding from?


    Nope, they dislike diversity and those who disagree with them. Then again, they believe in fairy tales like Global Warming, War for oil, and such.
    Read above post. And while I know you like to believe that oil wasn't a factor in invading Iraq, I've already pointed it to you several times that Bush has stated otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotTrotter View Post
    I understand Bin Laden was wanted before 9-11. Read your article dated 2-5-2001. In the article that was written in February of 2001 they refer to Bin Laden as the man who masterminded the 9-11-2001 attack. It points out that the article you provide is a fake. Therefore, your evidence is garbage.
    Once again your density shines brightly. I didn't write the articles, but I would bet the writer was referring to the first WTC attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThNozzleman View Post
    He's a good guitar player and musician (in his genre)...but that's about it. I have nothing against good rock and roll. But the man is insane...and it's only gotten worse in recent years. The man has paranoia written all over him.
    Paranoia and insanity arekey traits in a great Guitar players......I like his music.....and I don't care what some rich celeb says, does.or thinks.....

    btw he does call himself the original "wackmaster"....so he knows he's nutz....
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    Not at all. But you aren't going to compare the way animals are slaughtered in an abattoir versus being shot at long range with a huge technological advantage.
    Exactly. It would be akin to slaughterhouse employees getting sick thrills by killing the animals in the most agonizing way, and feeling rapture as their blood spills.
    It makes it taste that much better when its on my plate. Its called the joys of life and hard work.
    It's called getting sick thrills out of killing and death. It has absolutely nothing to do with need. Just because you eat something you kill doesn't make it right to enjoy doing it...especially not to the estatic point that the majority of hunters eschew during the almighty hunting season. I'm around guys like you all day, every day. They do not kill for food...and they do not kill for sake of "thinning the herd". They kill for the pure orgasmic barbaric rapture they feel in their ignorant minds. Then they cut the heads off their "conquests" and mount them on the wall at home so they can continue their warm feelings of accomplishment every time they look in the empty eyes of their various quarry.
    These animals did not die a natural death...they died so some redneck could fullfill their twisted egos. Hunting for jollies; there's just nothing natural about it in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Once again your density shines brightly. I didn't write the articles, but I would bet the writer was referring to the first WTC attack.
    As far as I can find out Bin Laden has not been tied to the first WTC bombing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scfire86 View Post
    Do you see me saying that hunting should be banned? If someone wants to get their jollies out of killing a prey animal at long distance with a HUGE technological advantage I have no problem with that. I just question what breakdown they have in their empty lives that would cause something like that to be exciting. I get a hoot when I see deer hunters wearing camoflauge. This is especially funny since deer are color blind. Who are they hiding from?



    Read above post. And while I know you like to believe that oil wasn't a factor in invading Iraq, I've already pointed it to you several times that Bush has stated otherwise.
    Perhaps you need to go on a hunting trip with those that hunt. then maybe you will understand. But I too laugh at the camo thing. Matter of fact, just last week I was standing on the stone wall next to my little pond. Just across the pond (about 75 feet) stood a deer. It ate a little. looked my way, ate a little more, then walked off. I don't think the darn thing ever saw me. But here is my real question. How does anyone know that deer are color blind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinnieB View Post
    Paranoia and insanity arekey traits in a great Guitar players......I like his music.....and I don't care what some rich celeb says, does.or thinks.....

    btw he does call himself the original "wackmaster"....so he knows he's nutz....
    Are you telling me you don't listen to the nut cases in Hollywood? Surely you must listen to the almighty Michael Moore who is smarter than anyone I know

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