Every once in awhile I see fire apparatus driving around with just the rear lights flashing. I have seen it quite a bit lately. What is the reason for this? It seems to confuse drivers.
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09-04-2007, 04:47 PM #1
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09-04-2007, 04:59 PM #2
We have talked about doing this but since there is no switch just for the rear lights we leave out signal masters on the “warn” pattern at all times when we are driving, whether its on a call or just returning to the hall or whatever. Simple reason is that we may be stopping or slowing down at any time for what may seem like no reason to the guy that is driving behind us but in reality its due to a call or something of that nature. It also adds more awareness to the person driving behind us.www.firehall.com - check it out
09-04-2007, 05:29 PM #3
i heard this was a traditional thing, when guys used to ride the back step, to leave the rear warning lights on for their safety. And to make other drivers aware of what was on the back of the ambulance.
and of course, even though we don't ride the back step anymore, we haven't bothered to change out way of thinking about that ruleIf my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!
09-04-2007, 05:35 PM #4
We don't to it as much as we used to, but it is still done sometimes. Simply to draw more attention to the apparatus and keep drivers aware."This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
09-04-2007, 05:40 PM #5
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I'd say (like has been said) its for warning. Even with them I have lost count on how many times some jackoff will try and sneak behind the rig, when slowing down to begin trying to back into the station (with full lights going).
09-04-2007, 05:49 PM #6
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Our rear directional warning lights have their own switch separate from the emergency master. Drivers may just be forgetting to turn them off.
09-04-2007, 07:17 PM #7
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09-04-2007, 07:57 PM #9
I would think if your really worried about someone hitting you in the rear you would include something like a third brake light on your rigs. I know all the transit buses around here have a pair of amber LEDs in the center under the rear windows that come on when they let off the gas. Gets your attention...Fire Marshal/Safety Officer
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09-04-2007, 07:58 PM #10
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09-04-2007, 10:12 PM #12
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Another vote in Cozmosis corner. Emergency lights are for emergencies, hazard lights are for hazards. Like BoxAlarm our 2 newest units have traffic advisors and all future ones will as well.
09-05-2007, 08:44 AM #13
Driving around with flashing lights on when you aren't on a call is causing more harm than good. You are accomplishing nothing.Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.
09-05-2007, 09:25 AM #14
My opinions might coincide with someone of importance's POV... I wouldn't know, since I never bothered to ask. My policy is: "Don't ask, don't care."
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09-05-2007, 09:46 AM #15
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FYI, in NJ this is quite common.
39:4-92.1. Fire department vehicle returning to fire station; flashing red light
It shall be lawful for any fire department vehicle when returning to its fire station from an emergency call to display a flashing red light visible under normal atmospheric conditions from a distance of at least 500 feet to the rear of the vehicle and no driver of any vehicle other than one on official business shall follow any such vehicle displaying said light closer than 300 feet.
L.1966, c. 289, s. 1, eff. Oct. 6, 1966.
09-05-2007, 10:05 AM #16
09-05-2007, 12:25 PM #17
I leave my traffic bar on random flash all the time. If it makes people reluctant to get close or pass, that's a bonus.
It confuses drivers? They live confused.
09-05-2007, 12:31 PM #18
Let's see... the only times I see rear lights on -
1) We're going to fireworks detail and have people riding in the hose bed.
2) The driver forgot to turn them off
But on some trucks, the arrow stick is permanently on, but I don't know if that counts as "rear lights".
09-05-2007, 01:31 PM #19
09-05-2007, 03:29 PM #20
I don't see it as a problem. I don't have a policy one way or the other...
When I was operating, if the vehicle was not in service (just me on board and not available), I would shut them off.
I like the previous comment that drivers "live confused".
However, on any new apparatus, we are blacking out the forward facing section of the rear rotators. So that people ahead of us don't get confused and pull over.I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.
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