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    Just wanted to post my timeline so far to see if anyone else is around the same time frame. Like that we can keep each other updated with when we hear back.
    Interview January 9, 2009
    Background interview January 22, 2009


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    Thought I'd post my timeline in case anyone else was around the same time frame. Like that some people can follow the legnth of time it takes for each step. And for anyone to let the others in the same time frame know if they have heard anything.
    Interview January 9, 2009

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    Oops accidentaly pressed enter.
    Interview Jan 9, 2009
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    Quote Originally Posted by slick75 View Post
    Hey Lamina007,

    My buddy took the written exam on DEc 14th, but he hasnt heard back yet either. What did personnel tell you when you called them? Did they tell you when your letter would come or when your interview is?

    Thanks
    hey man hows it going. i just wanted to give you a heads up. i took my written on dec 13th. then passed my cpat on jan 8th. once i turned that in. i called back today and found out that they have all my stuff and my oral interview date is feb 19th. i still have not received any letters but they said that i would get it 14 days prior till my interview date. let your friend know to call in if he hasn't received his letter yet. you don't want that interview to sneak up on you and only have 14 days to prepare. keep me posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM1438 View Post
    Does anyone have any information about the LAFD academy? I heard it is a very demanding para-military academy with a high failure rate.
    From another posting by LAFD23

    There are so many threads on this board devoted to the hiring process for LAFD, and as someone who went through all of that I can understand the stress of the process.

    That being said, once you are successful in being hired for the department, (after all that time, worrying, and stress) you owe it to yourself to put yourself in the best position possible to succeed in the drill tower.

    An overwhelming majority of the recruits who fail the drill tower do so due to injury (ie: a full 30% of my drill tower class). Either an injury forces them to retire (just 4 missed days total in 18 weeks and you are out) or it causes them to fail enough evolutions that they can not be retained. And a vast majority of the injuries are because they were not prepared physically for the rigors of training and their bodies just broke down.

    *Tangent alert*: If you think the CPAT is in any way representative of the physical demands of the drill tower you are incredibly mistaken. If you had even a minor difficulty completing any element of the CPAT course (or the course as a whole), you will need to *significantly* elevate your fitness level to be prepared for your training in the drill tower.

    Please do not believe that you will be able to work your way into shape in the drill tower. In fact, if you think you are in the best shape of your life, you should train harder in anticipation of the drill tower. Furthermore, if you can bench 300 lbs, but can't run a mile, you need to adjust your training methods.

    Whatever you do, just don't let all those months (or years) of working so diligently to get hired go to waste because you fail to train properly.

    Here is an extremely basic training idea (assuming an average to above average baseline fitness level):

    Roughly 1 year out (aka START RIGHT NOW): Start with your diet. You need to lose any extra weight you are carrying starting now. Every evolution performed during the drill tower is that much harder when you're carrying extra lbs of fat. Get rid of it. Now. Your PPEs and FD equip is heavy enough.

    Stop easting fast food now. Start eating lean meats, salad, etc. If you don't know what to eat, get a book from the library, ask a nutritionist or buddy, etc.. Start drinking lots of water and get used to making sure your body is hydrated every day. Stop drinking sports drinks and soda. Cut back on or eliminate the booze too.

    Also, this is a good time to start jogging or doing cardio if you need to elevate your baseline fitness level. If you can't run 3 miles in under 24 minutes, this means you.

    6-12 months out: If you haven't already, start an intensive training program focused on the tasks relevant to the drill tower and commit to it. I'm talking 5-6 times a week. Holidays. Birthdays. Whatever. Commit to it.

    For workouts, don't focus on only weights or only cardio. Instead, try to concentrate on high intensity cross training that combines cardio, weight and core training. I (and a lot of FFs on the job) used http://crossfit.com/ , which I highly recommend. I was a college athlete and still play sports and this method was ideal for the tasks presented in the drill tower.

    We had guys with muscles on top of muscles who couldn't run or bend and they got hurt. And running all day long isn't any good if you can't lift a hose pack. Find a balance that works for you and go with it.

    Also, work on your grip strength a little each day. Opinions vary on the best method. Towel pullups, wrist rollers, rock climbing, etc.. are usually the best.

    3 months out: At this point you should be in virtually peak physical condition. Keep it up. And really focus on your nutrition, especially hydration. Fine tune. Also add in pushups, lots of em. Do at least 100 a day. Also, work on your grip strength every day.

    1 month out: If you had really been pushing yourself to the limit, now is the time to pull back just a bit. Don't get yourself hurt before you start. Still work out, but not to the point of risking injury. Now is also the time to get your push-ups dialed. I suggest doing 25-50 every half hour on the hour all day long. Also, try to hold yourself at the up position and down position for 30-60 second intervals for a few of those. You will be doing this a lot in the drill tower. And you don't want to be the recruit who can not do it.

    During the drill tower: Work hard and take care of your body. Nutrition and hydration is critical. Drink all day and all night before days at the tower. If your urine isn't clear you need to drink some more. Guys fall out when they are not hydrated. Keep eating right also. A burger and fries for dinner isn't going to treat you right the next day during training. Most guys cut out booze completely.

    "Regarding grip, why wouldn't pullups and deadlifts be enough to develop grip strength? What besides climbing ladders and swinging axes will require so much grip?"

    To answer, I would suggest going beyond pullups and deadlifts so that you will strengthen your entire hand, not just your forearms and wrists.

    As I mentioned, I added towel pullups, rock climbing for variety (in a gym), and I purchased hand-grips online (http://www.ironmind.com/ironmind/ope...sofcrush.html). Don't bother with the ones you can get in stores, unless you can find ones like these.

    As for why, besides what you mentioned, here is what is going to test your grip strenght the most:

    1. (critical) Raising the fly section of extension ladders using a 3/8" or 5/8" halyard (rope) while wearing (often wet) structure gloves. You must do this with your hands thumbs up (not thumbs down like in the CPAT, which is easier). This is far more difficult than it sounds, and if you are unable to raise the ladder completely you will fail the evolution.

    2. (important, done often during drills and always during PT) Raising and lowering (with complete control, no slipping) hose and/or equipment via a 5/16" line completely as high as 8 stories while wearing (often wet) structure gloves. Often multiple times.

    These are just two of the most obvious tasks I can think of. Most people will lose their grip at some point. Also keep in mind that you will often (even daily) be asked to do these tasks multiple times and usually in succession, in addition to axe work and other exercises that will tax your body.

    Other than that: Give it your best and good luck.

    As I said, this is all a rough outline. I'm sure lots of people have routines and suggestions that worked for them. This is simply what worked for me, and what I observed as part of my recruit training. If anyone has any further questions, they can either respond to this thread or PM me directly and I would be glad to help.

    Disclaimer: Please keep this discussion to fitness/nutrition and such. I have no idea when you are getting hired and/or why you are not being hired. I trained for this job without having any confirmation at all that I would be lucky enough to get the call. What's the worst that can happen, you end up being in great shape?

    Best of luck to all of you and stay safe out there.

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    Talking any tips for a newbie

    Hello

    I just got in a mail to take the written test for LAFD on Feb 21. This will be my first Firefighter written exam I take. So I was wondering if you guys can give me any tips on how to come dress and what to expect. Any advice would be great.

    Thank You in advance and have a great day...

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    Hello

    I'm a newbie here and I just recently got my letter from LAFD on taking a written test on Feb 21. My question to my fellow members is what is the proper attire to wear to the written test? and any advice or tips on the written test event? Thank you in advance on your help.

    Have a good day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosario View Post
    Just wanted to post my timeline so far to see if anyone else is around the same time frame. Like that we can keep each other updated with when we hear back.
    Interview January 9, 2009
    Background interview January 22, 2009
    Looks like I'm in pretty much the same boat as you:

    My timeline:

    Applied: late July 2008

    CPAT: late August 2008

    Written: November 15th 2008

    *** got me emt cert late December 2008 ***

    Oral interview: January 13th 2009(no idea why it took 2 months to schedule my oral after the written as some guys were scheduled in the middle of december)

    Background Interview: Feb. 5th 2009(scrambling to get my references, roommates, previous job info, etc. together!!!)

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    I just moved out to wisconsin from california while my gf goes to school.I am currently a paid on call firefighter and an emt-basic.I plan on moving back home to LA in the next year and a half or so and applying , i was wondering if anyone has any advice on what i should do to better my chances of getting hired?..When i move back i will also be more than half way to an AA in fire protection. Will my year and a half experience as a paid on call ff, and my fire science credits give me a better shot at getting hired??, saying i do good enough on the written that is. Any info or advice is appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arosario View Post
    Just wanted to post my timeline so far to see if anyone else is around the same time frame. Like that we can keep each other updated with when we hear back.
    Interview January 9, 2009
    Background interview January 22, 2009
    I also had my background interview the 22nd

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    Lamina007,

    Hey, I really appreciate your information. He hasnt heard anything yet, I told him to call..... but I dont think he has. I'll let you know when he hears something and when his interview is.

    Start running and doing push ups now!!! You'll be doing alot of it in the drill tower.

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    I hate to call and annoy the HR people, but I took my test on Dec 19th and I have not heard back yet. Anyone else from the Dec 19th out there heard back about their test scores or interview invitations?

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    i received my letter for the oral interview. it came in just like they said. 14 days before my oral. FYI for those of you in the same process.

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    I received my letter yesterday that I made it through the Initial Panel Review and I will be contacted by a background investigator within 30 days!

    I took my written on Oct 18.
    Did an interview workshop in Oct.
    Mock oral on Nov 15th
    Oral Dec 1, (got a BG Packet!!!) They said I would get my official score 6/8 weeks by mail.
    Have my BG interview Dec 18th.
    Oral Interview Score Letter Jan 15th - score 100
    Background Investigator Letter Feb 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by jac629 View Post
    I received my letter yesterday that I made it through the Initial Panel Review and I will be contacted by a background investigator within 30 days!

    I took my written on Oct 18.
    Did an interview workshop in Oct.
    Mock oral on Nov 15th
    Oral Dec 1, (got a BG Packet!!!) They said I would get my official score 6/8 weeks by mail.
    Have my BG interview Dec 18th.
    Oral Interview Score Letter Jan 15th - score 100
    Background Investigator Letter Feb 4th
    Good stuff. I think I took it the same day you did. Maybe mine will come tomorrow? *fingers crossed*

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    Im looking for some advice. Im currently living in wisconsin, but im from southern california, and plan on moving back home in about a year and a half. Im currently an NRemt basic, and working as a paid on call firefighter, as well as pursuing an AA in fire protection. I plan on applying to any and all departments near LA that i possibly can, including LA city and La CO. Does anyone have any advice on how i can better prepare, build my resume, experience, have a better chance of getting hired, etc..??? I already know that none of my certificates, ff 1, 2, hazmat, etc, will not work in cali, but i plan on taking a firefighter 1 academy asap when i get home. Is that a good start??..... Any advice is appreciated!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jac629 View Post
    I received my letter yesterday that I made it through the Initial Panel Review and I will be contacted by a background investigator within 30 days!

    I took my written on Oct 18.
    Did an interview workshop in Oct.
    Mock oral on Nov 15th
    Oral Dec 1, (got a BG Packet!!!) They said I would get my official score 6/8 weeks by mail.
    Have my BG interview Dec 18th.
    Oral Interview Score Letter Jan 15th - score 100
    Background Investigator Letter Feb 4th
    i have my oral interview coming up on the 19th of this month. any words of encouragement or tips for me?

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    Lamina,

    thanks for your updates! I've replied to you a few times, but for some reason my responses never get posted. So well see if this makes it.

    As far as the interview... did you happen to do the mock interviews at Hotchkins? Be confident, stick with your first answer. dont second guess yourself even if they question you. They just want to hear your reasoning, it doesnt really matter if you answer is not text book, just as long as you can explain your thinking behind it.

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    just got my interview score in the mail today. so this puts me at:
    Interview Jan 9
    BG interview Jan 22
    Interview score recieved Feb 6

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamina007 View Post
    i have my oral interview coming up on the 19th of this month. any words of encouragement or tips for me?
    You want to tie EVERYTHING you say into the fire service. Also, for the purpose of your interview, LAFD is the best and only department you ever wanted to work for.

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