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    Pretty sure several of you know by now. The process has been pushed to the first quarter of next year.

    "The Los Angeles Fire Department (LAFD) will test early next year (2013) for the “Entry Level Firefighter” Position. As of today pending on the budget it looks like LAFD will do the following:

    • Hire approximately 350 Firefighters over the next 2 years (+ or -)
    • Open the application process in the November or December 2012 time frame.
    • Written exam will be in February or March 2013.
    • Intervie
    w process will be in May or June 2013.
    •The LAFD Fire Academy will start approx in March 2014. Each class will have 60-70 Firefighters per class.
    • LAFD will hire approx 100 firefighters or hire per attrition each year after. (Pending budget)
    • LAFD will test every 2-3 years after the 2013 written exam.
    (Pending budget)"

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    Hi, I am a caucasian, male college student who will apply for the LAFD during the next round

    of hiring in 2013. I understand that there is a lot of politics when it comes to the hiring of

    Entry-Level Fire Fighters positions (ie: background, connections to the Department, gender,

    race). However, I was wondering, if I can be at the very best applicant (pass the CPAT, High

    Scores on both Oral and Written Tests), do I have a chance of being hired?

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    Nope, no shot whatsoever.

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    Yep you're done bro. I wouldn't even apply.

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    Guys, just a piece of advice.

    Yes, you are a Caucasian and you have a chance, at any Department in our nation. You are in process of getting your degree... just think about the fact that you have thousands of applicants looking into the fire service anywhere with a variety of backgrounds, education, experience, etc.

    You may call it politics, connections, etc, etc. the fact is that your are planning on applying at one of the most diverse cities in the whole world, and that is a fact.
    Progressive leaders in the fire service will try to meet the goal of reaching out to their customers, which as you may know, in Los Angeles is pretty varied.

    I am no king of the kings, Mr. know it all, or whatever you want to call it, just want to give you some advice before you write anything on here, but you should work on matching what the department is looking for: people with desire to serve others with the ability to perform in the most professional way.

    The "professionalism" is not just expressed as having a college degree as some people think, but also to maybe learn about a different culture, a different language, and being able to communicate with most individuals in a city such as Los Angeles.

    Keep working on your degree, and research about Los Angeles, the mission of the department, strategic goals, and other facts. Learn what they look for in applicants, in fact, I would call them and ask them directly that question (I did it last year) they are pretty open to that and recruiters from the department will help you big time.

    I would encourage you to apply. Just keep in mind that you might have an African descendent individual with a PhD, a bilingual Caucasian with an Master's degree, a Latino who had close to 10 years experience as an officer at a different department and also has a B.S., an Asian national with previous experience as a kinesiologist, and all of them (examples) before you on a hiring list. Most likely, since they also really want to get in this profession, a few of them pursued paramedic training and certification.

    So considering the fact that thousands of individuals of both genders and with previous qualifications and higher education have moved on through the hiring process just as you "would do", think about it. Is it politics? connections? minority preferential?

    Go ahead, apply, study hard, prepare, and do your best. You are trying at the best profession in the whole world, in one of the most resourceful, influential, and recognized departments in the nation.

    Be safe.
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    It's coming... www.joinlafd.org . Has anybody heard about possible contract of the BLS units?

    Any Angelenos with more updates?

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    Part of your upcoming LA City fire exam will include reading comprehension. Below are some strategies to help you prepare. Good luck !!

    Assistant Chief Brent Collins, Cleveland Fire Dept.
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    TEST-TAKING STRATEGY FOR READING COMPREHENSION

    Verbal comprehension measures your ability to read and understand the types of written materials a firefighter might be expected to read on the job. You will be presented with a reading passage and then asked to answer questions about the passage. All the information needed to answer the questions will be included in the passage itself.

    In answering the questions based on the reading passage, it is important that you answer the questions only according to the information given in the passage. If you have information from your own experience and knowledge, you should not use it to answer a question of this type. Even if you think that there is a mistake in the reading selection, you must still answer the question on the basis of the information given in the reading passage.

    The kinds of Reading Comprehension questions which appear on a civil service exam tend to be somewhat different from the reading comprehension questions on a school related exam. That is because there are different kinds of reading--skimming, reading for general understanding, reading for details, etc. Your exam will be based mostly on reading technical materials, not anything like a novel or essay. Hence, your exam will have more focus on exact grasp of details.

    There are certain techniques that will help you do well on reading comprehension questions. Here is a summary of the most important techniques.

    Use your pencil. To begin with, use your pencil as a pointer. Using the pencil to guide your eye along a line of text helps you to focus on the details in the reading; it holds your attention to the precise words in the passage. In a long test, attention may weaken. Fatigue may blunt your attention to details. But using your pencil as a pointer will help to preserve your attention to details.

    Another benefit of using the pencil as a pointer is that it will probably speed up your reading. The steady flow of the pencil across the page with each line of text draws the eye along at a steady pace. Do not go faster than you can grasp the text, but do try to keep your reading going at a steady pace set by the pencil.

    Circle key words and phrases. In a Reading Comprehension test you are not reading for just a vague general understanding of the passage. You usually have to read for detailed understanding. There will be individual words which are important for grasping a point exactly. You do not want to write so much on a passage that it is hard to read a second time if you need to go back to check a detail. But you do want to circle key words or phrases which will enable you to zero in on precise points needed to answer a question.

    Read short questions carefully the first time. When you are reading a short question for the first time, read it carefully. A short question is one that is only seven or eight lines long. You can retain all of the main ideas and remember where particular things are mentioned from one careful reading. Hence, you do not want to waste time reading this passage twice.


    Besides wasting time, another bad consequence of reading a short question very carelessly the first time is that it may leave you with some false impressions of what you have read. Wrong ideas can get stuck in your head from a careless reading. Then it will be more difficult to get the correct answer.

    For long questions, look ahead to see what is being asked. Take a look at the "stem" of the question, the sentence which precedes the answer choices. And look at the kinds of choices which are being offered. Sometimes reading passages are long but the questions are asking only for particular details. In that case you can often skim a long passage to find the particular detail.

    Keep forging ahead. Do not get bogged down if there is a word or sentence you do not understand. You may get the main idea without knowing the individual word or sentence. Sometimes you can sense the meaning of the word from the context. Sometimes the word or sentence may not be the basis of any question. If there is some idea you need to answer a question but do not understand, read it one more time. If you still do not understand it, move on. You can come back to this question later if you have more time at the end of the test.

    Picture what you read. Try to form a picture in your mind as you read. School books used to teach reading contain many pictures because pictures aid comprehension. When reading material without pictures, it will aid your comprehension if you use your imagination to picture in your mind what you are reading. Read as if you were a professional illustrator who has been hired to do an illustration for the passage.

    Ask yourself questions as you read. When you finish reading a sentence, ask yourself what the author was saying. At the end of a whole paragraph, ask yourself what the point of the whole paragraph was. If you ask yourself questions, you will find that you are paraphrasing the passage in your mind. That will help your understanding.

    Know where the author stands. Sometimes a passage will contain an evaluation of some ideas of tools or procedures. The author may want to make the point that certain practices or procedures are bad or that certain tools may not be right for a particular job. Be sure you know if the author is accepting or rejecting something.

    Another good reading comprehension strategy is to read the questions before starting the passage. This does not mean to read the answer choices at this time. By reading the questions, you will have an idea of what information you will need after reading the passage. This may alert you to certain details, ideas and specific areas in the paragraph where the questions are being drawn from.



    For those of you preparing for the upcoming LA City fire exam, go to the link below for additional exam prep.

    http://www.fireprep.com/la_city_exam_preparation.html



    www.fireprep.com

    1-800-989-FIRE

    E-mail- dmfireschool@aol.com

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    From the recruitment website:

    The City of Los Angeles, Personnel Department, will open the job bulletin for Firefighter on FRIDAY, JANUARY 4, 2013, which will be made available at: http://agency.governmentjobs.com/lacity/default.cfm. The tentative dates when applications will be accepted on-line will begin at 8:00 a.m. on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 until Thursday, January 17, 2013, at 11:59 p.m. It is anticipated that qualified applicants will be scheduled to take the Qualifying Written Test on the tentative test dates of SATURDAY, MARCH 2, 2013 or SUNDAY, MARCH 3, 2013, in Los Angeles. Qualified applicants will be notified by mail of their specific test date and time.

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    does anyone know if you can do your CPAT out of state with PST or NTN for LAFD. thanks

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    One of the 10 "Tier 1" departments in the country and have one of the most agressive roof operations out-west, why wouldn't I apply!

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    Not sure what PST or NTN is, but as long as it's a "fully-licensed" organization, you're good to go. List of licensees is here: http://www.iaff.org/HS/Well/statelist.htm

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    NTN is National Testing Network, PST is Public safety testing in WA state. thanks for the link. today is the day the app closes. hope to get an actual test date to book the flight. does anyone know the time frame for each stage by chance. best of luck to everyone on here.
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    Hey guys, another person made a 2013 thread for the current recruitment status. I suggest we use that one here on out and here is the link 2013 thread (City of Los Angeles 2013) I'm coming from the East Coast for this! Best of luck everyone!

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    Went to one of their written test prep courses last weekend and it was told to me that there was 13,400 people applied and 1,000 people did not meet the qualifications. So there will be 12,400 people going to the written exam. Once the written exam is over there will be about 15 to 20 % of the people taking the written won't either show up or fail the exam.

    So after the written exam is over there will be roughly 9,900 people left over after the written exam which would twindle down after people not taking the CPAT nor people going to the interview process.

    Anybody else have any info that would be great. Also, on the application there was a section where it asked if you have taken a written exam for the City within the past 5 years, does this mean that some people won't have to take the written exam or what?????? I can't get an answer fro the city which they probably dont know either. Everything moves at a snails pace with cities and counties.

    Good Luck.

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    Hey there, we have another forum going on for all the updated info, the link is above; but thanks for that info! As for the written test- Negative! I'm 99.9% sure you'll have to take it again. If you did take a test, it's possible that they would dig it up and see if you failed it. Not all of the City's tests are the same. If you took one to be a landscaper, I highly doubt that the mechanical part would be on that test, like they are on the FD test.

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