Jr. Firefighters

[jorylanken2009]

I have a question how much would it cost for a typical junior firefighter to get an average turn out gear or what all should the junior have when getting stuff or would the junior just not need anything else or what?

[jacklrd]

I have a question how much would it cost for a typical junior firefighter to get an average turn out gear or what all should the junior have when getting stuff or would the junior just not need anything else or what?

You shouldn't have to buy anything, what you need should be supplied by the department. If they don't give it to you-you don't need it as a Jr.

[MustanGT1964]

Ya, My department gives you the equipment, you are responsible for them. If they are damaged, then, and only then do you have to pay.

[Remthedays]

You shouldn't have to buy anything, what you need should be supplied by the department. If they don't give it to you-you don't need it as a Jr.

I agree 100%.

T.J.

[LADDER2EKU]

You shouldn't have to buy anything, what you need should be supplied by the department. If they don't give it to you-you don't need it as a Jr.

I agree to an extent. I don't see whats wrong with starting to gather all the items you plan on carrying when you do get certified.

When I wasn't certified I carried:
approximatly 20 feet of webbing
multi-head screw driver
vices grips
allen wrenches
a window punch
a pair of extrication gloves
safety glasses
wire cutters
2 nomex hoods
fire gloves
plenty of wedges

I still carry all of that plus a survivor 90 degree flash light on my coat, and a vulcan on my side.

Some people carry bottles of water in there turnouts, I never understood this. At any large scale incidents where that might be necassary there will usually be some sort of water cooler on the scene. Either from a cooler on one of the rigs or from a support or rehab unit.

Whatever your going to put in your gear make sure that it has a purpose and is not just something to carry.

[jorylanken2009]

I agree to an extent. I don't see whats wrong with starting to gather all the items you plan on carrying when you do get certified.

When I wasn't certified I carried:
approximatly 20 feet of webbing
multi-head screw driver
vices grips
allen wrenches
a window punch
a pair of extrication gloves
safety glasses
wire cutters
2 nomex hoods
fire gloves plenty of wedges

I still carry all of that plus a survivor 90 degree flash light on my coat, and a vulcan on my side.

Some people carry bottles of water in there turnouts, I never understood this. At any large scale incidents where that might be necassary there will usually be some sort of water cooler on the scene. Either from a cooler on one of the rigs or from a support or rehab unit.

Whatever your going to put in your gear make sure that it has a purpose and is not just something to carry.

so do you think that is what a junior should have or is there more?

[jacklrd]

so do you think that is what a junior should have or is there more?

If I had my own gear I would have:

Webbing
Pliers/vice grips
4-in-1 screw driver
Chocks
Safety glasses
Mechanics gloves (packing hose/extrication)

and maybe some more

[LADDER2EKU]

so do you think that is what a junior should have or is there more?

Thats what worked for me. I know quite a few people that carry more, and an even greater number that carry less.

Again, whatever you put in your pockets, make sure there is a reason that it is there.

[backsteprescue123]

I agree to an extent. I don't see whats wrong with starting to gather all the items you plan on carrying when you do get certified.

When I wasn't certified I carried:
approximatly 20 feet of webbing
multi-head screw driver
vices grips
allen wrenches
a window punch
a pair of extrication gloves
safety glasses
wire cutters
2 nomex hoods
fire gloves
plenty of wedges

I still carry all of that plus a survivor 90 degree flash light on my coat, and a vulcan on my side.

Some people carry bottles of water in there turnouts, I never understood this. At any large scale incidents where that might be necassary there will usually be some sort of water cooler on the scene. Either from a cooler on one of the rigs or from a support or rehab unit.

Whatever your going to put in your gear make sure that it has a purpose and is not just something to carry.

I carry the same stuff. But add a pair of dykes and a slotted and a phillips screwdriver. (Had a reversable tipped one, tip got lost easily and was a pain to switch around)

[ndvfdff33]

so do you think that is what a junior should have or is there more?

As a Junior no you do not need half of that. Most Juniors would not get close enough to be able to use half of it. Maybe when your not a Junior some day if you want to fill your pockets up until you cannot walk have at er. No need for it now. The most you need now is a pen, pad of paper and a pair of gloves.

[GTRider245]

As a Junior no you do not need half of that. Most Juniors would not get close enough to be able to use half of it. Maybe when your not a Junior some day if you want to fill your pockets up until you cannot walk have at er. No need for it now. The most you need now is a pen, pad of paper and a pair of gloves.

I would agree with this 100 percent.

[backsteprescue123]

As a Junior no you do not need half of that. Most Juniors would not get close enough to be able to use half of it. Maybe when your not a Junior some day if you want to fill your pockets up until you cannot walk have at er. No need for it now. The most you need now is a pen, pad of paper and a pair of gloves.

As wierd as this sounds.... I agree with you. I have run acrossmaybe one other explorer besides myselfwho actually would use this crap in their pockets. I have refined my pocket gear and have taken things out that I have never used. But, then again, I have some crazy luck for happening upon accidents. My family travels alot to visit family and quite often we come upon wrecks and even on my way home from practice I stop at some. That and during drills,scenarios, etc, I use the gear in my pockets quite often.


**** P.S.- I also carry a seat belt cutter in my gear (letter openers that banks and such give out, the little plastic ones with the safety razor blade)

[dave johnson]

Be sure to have good eye protection and an extra pair of gloves. The rest you can figure out as time goes by and you gain experience. Everyone who responded has good ideas but it may not apply to your situation. I carry the eye protection and spare gloves, as well as extrication gloves, and a ziploc containiing a notepad, pen, and latex gloves. During cold weather, I may also carry a small mirror used to look up chimneys.

[backsteprescue123]

Forgot about those....


I also carry safety glasses.

[Explorer343]

I have a question how much would it cost for a typical junior firefighter to get an average turn out gear or what all should the junior have when getting stuff or would the junior just not need anything else or what?

you really do not need to purchase any turnout gear. they issue you all you'll ever need while working with the dept. as an explorer/jr. FF. if you want to purchase anything such as turnout gear your looking at a good 1100 bucks there pal. if you want a helmet then your looking at a good 600 bucks for a leather or 150-200 bucks for a traditional. i recently got a cairns 1044 for 159 bucks on thefirestore.com. but i only got that because i wanted it, not because i needed it. our dept. issues perfectly fine cairns 660c metro to our explorers and hand-me-down turnouts from generous surrounding towns and cities. we get gloves and a hood which are in decent shape. all we need to get is our class A uniforms which consists of a light blue button up dress shirt and dark blue Dickies pants which all together costs around 40-45 bucks.

my advice is don't buy anything that you're not gonna need. check with whoever runs the program to see if you need anything else (chances are they'll say no). save up and buy yourself a nice leather.

[Explorer343]

I agree to an extent. I don't see whats wrong with starting to gather all the items you plan on carrying when you do get certified.

When I wasn't certified I carried:
approximatly 20 feet of webbing
multi-head screw driver
vices grips
allen wrenches
a window punch
a pair of extrication gloves
safety glasses
wire cutters
2 nomex hoods
fire gloves
plenty of wedges
I still carry all of that plus a survivor 90 degree flash light on my coat, and a vulcan on my side.

Some people carry bottles of water in there turnouts, I never understood this. At any large scale incidents where that might be necassary there will usually be some sort of water cooler on the scene. Either from a cooler on one of the rigs or from a support or rehab unit.

Whatever your going to put in your gear make sure that it has a purpose and is not just something to carry.

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[LADDER2EKU]

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OK, so your saying I carry to much? I have used every single thing I carry in my pockets at the very least once.

Lets see:
WEBBING has countless uses, I used it to secure a door,
SCREW DRIVER again has countless uses
VICE GRIPS can be used to secure a garage door open, using these instead off a hook lessens the chance of it being knocked out of the way and the door closing
ALLEN WRENCHES can be used on certain types of fire alarm systems
WINDOW PUNCH has been used several times on cut jobs
EXTRICATION GLOVES again been used on several cut jobs
SAFETY GLASSES cut jobs and pulling cieling
WIRE CUTTERS, I believe every fireman should have a pair, have used them to secure batteries on cars, wires hanging down during overhaul, and will be used in the event I ever become entagled at a fire.
NOMEX HOODS obvious it's use, and I carry an extra incase mine is damaged or a buddy has lost his
FIRE GLOVES obvious what they are for
DOOR WEDGES used to secure doors, I carry 2 hinge locks on my helmet and 3 wooden wedges in my coat pocket
And lights well -- Two is one and one is none --

Like I said before everything I carry has a purpose.

[Explorer343]

OK, so your saying I carry to much? I have used every single thing I carry in my pockets at the very least once.

Lets see:
WEBBING has countless uses, I used it to secure a door,
SCREW DRIVER again has countless uses
VICE GRIPS can be used to secure a garage door open, using these instead off a hook lessens the chance of it being knocked out of the way and the door closing
ALLEN WRENCHES can be used on certain types of fire alarm systems
WINDOW PUNCH has been used several times on cut jobs
EXTRICATION GLOVES again been used on several cut jobs
SAFETY GLASSES cut jobs and pulling cieling
WIRE CUTTERS, I believe every fireman should have a pair, have used them to secure batteries on cars, wires hanging down during overhaul, and will be used in the event I ever become entagled at a fire.
NOMEX HOODS obvious it's use, and I carry an extra incase mine is damaged or a buddy has lost his
FIRE GLOVES obvious what they are for
DOOR WEDGES used to secure doors, I carry 2 hinge locks on my helmet and 3 wooden wedges in my coat pocket
And lights well -- Two is one and one is none --

Like I said before everything I carry has a purpose.

But as an Explorer/Jr. FF, half the things you mentioned we won't need because most of the scenerios you mentioned we are not allowed to enter! As an Explorer/Jr. FF, you are given all we would need and anything you have to purchase, I am sure, the post director would have informed you what and where to get it.

[the1141man]

I agree to an extent. I don't see whats wrong with starting to gather all the items you plan on carrying when you do get certified.

When I wasn't certified I carried:
approximatly 20 feet of webbing
multi-head screw driver
vices grips
allen wrenches
a window punch
a pair of extrication gloves
safety glasses
wire cutters
2 nomex hoods
fire gloves
plenty of wedges
....

Anybody else catch that?

PS--you forgot the partridge in a pear tree.

[jacklrd]

Anybody else catch that?

PS--you forgot the partridge in a pear tree.

I saw it, but decided to let it go.

good 600 bucks for a leather or 150-200 bucks for a traditional.

I thought a traditional was a leather??