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    I've got an interview coming up and am thinking about wearing my Class A's from my current dept. I am proud of where I'm coming from but I just don't want to buy a suit for one day and never wear it again. What do you think is it too much? I'm looking for advice from people on hiring boards.

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    Ok, I'm not on a FD hiring board, so take what I say as you want.

    If you can't take the time and effort to show up to the interview in proper attire, that shows me you most likely won't put the time and effort in later either.
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    I'm no expert either...but I say get the suit. I don't wear a suit to work at my current job...but I do get use out of having one (weddings, funerals, etc.).

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    You can get a suit for very little if you look around. Invest in your future. If you show up in your class A, they will think that is where you want to stay.
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    Don't take this the wrong way, but obviously you don't want their job bad enough. Seriously, are you testing on a whim or do you want their job? Because IMO all you're saying to them is, "Look at me! I've already got a job and your position is not important enough for me to show up in proper business attire."

    Are you testing anywhere else? A suit will be needed if you are going to any other interviews. Remember, they don't necessarily care where you are coming from. They want to know; will you be humble enough to blend in and not be that guy to always be saying, "Well back at Useta Department..." I think wearing your current Class A's says to them you're gonna be that guy.

    I say get the suit. Let us know.

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    get a suit, every man should own one, youre going to wear it more than once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffbam24 View Post
    Don't take this the wrong way, but obviously you don't want their job bad enough. Seriously, are you testing on a whim or do you want their job? Because IMO all you're saying to them is, "Look at me! I've already got a job and your position is not important enough for me to show up in proper business attire."

    Are you testing anywhere else? A suit will be needed if you are going to any other interviews. Remember, they don't necessarily care where you are coming from. They want to know; will you be humble enough to blend in and not be that guy to always be saying, "Well back at Useta Department..." I think wearing your current Class A's says to them you're gonna be that guy.

    I say get the suit. Let us know.

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    Thats a good point. Nobody likes that guy.

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    Marshalls has great name brand suits for very cheap in price.. check them out

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    You want your oral board to run smoothly without any surprises. Since what you wear is the strongest non-verbal statement you can make when you walk into the room a uniform, any uniform, might not get you off on the right footing. Are you willing to take that chance?

    For some reason candidates have been convinced by themselves or others that this will some how separate them from the other candidates. It can but not in a way you were looking for. It often hits the panel that you are asking for more points.

    Understand you are applying for a snot nose rookie position. You have no time or rank with the department you are testing for. So donít wear your military, volunteer, other department, dogcatcher or other uniform to your interview.

    Here's a recent one.

    A candidate from out of state called from southern California the night before his oral board. He asked if it was all right if he wore his military uniform to his oral? I asked him if he had brought anything else to wear. He said no. He said his dad and other members of his family that are in law enforcement told him it would make him stand out. I told him to go ahead and wear his uniform and we would talk later.

    Did he get called back? Not yet.

    Men: Do wear a wool suit in dark blue or gray. Pinstripes are fine, but avoid brown, black, or high fashion brightly colored suits. Sport coats or blazers are out, so is polyester. Tie should be in a solid color such as navy, red, maroon, yellow stripe, or paisley print. Wear a white, off white, or pale blue long sleeved shirt in cotton or a cotton blend. Starch it no matter what the instructions say. No patterned shirts!

    Donít: Wear casual or novelty watches, too much jewelry, monograms, religious, political, or fraternity affiliation accessories. Beards are out; mustaches are a gray area. When in doubt, shave it off. Donít wear cell phones, pagers or any other electronic leases.

    I hear from candidates that they can afford a suit. Then rent a suit.

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    Default Coloring outside the lines

    Question: How do you feel about a red shirt for the oral? I have heard that a power color is good way to go.

    Reply: Power colors are for the corporate world not fire. The fire department is a semi-military organization. You're applying for a snott nose rookie position. Leave the power stuff in the closet. Wear a white, off white, or pale blue long sleeved shirt in cotton or a cotton blend. Starch it no matter what the instructions say. No patterned shirts!
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    Default Easy to answer

    GET A SUIT!! Plain and simple.
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    Thanks guys for the guidance back to my senses. Its alittle hard coming up off that cash but I'm going out today to get one.

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    Heck, you can get one from Wally mart for under a hundred. Good Luck!
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    Just in case you didn't hear it enough... buy a suit. Or borrow one for that matter. Who cares if you never need it again. I bought a new suit for each interview (three times with one department, twice for the list and initial class and once for the second class) and have only worn one of them again for an interview for the department I accepted a job with. Other than that, they are sitting in my closet collecting dust and I couldn't be happier!

    PS - Wearing a uniform from another department to a uniform seems disrespectful, they know you're from another department. It's on your resume right? I also find it weird that people insist on wearing their t-shirts during the testing, but that's just me.
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    Are you going to the interview on official business from your current Department? Probably not. When wearing your Class A (or any) uniform, you are a representative of that department. I hardly think your current dept would think it is appropriate for you to be wearing THEIR uniform to get hired somewhere else. It shows a lack of respect for your current department, and the interviewing department will surely notice it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBob View Post
    Question: How do you feel about a red shirt for the oral? I have heard that a power color is good way to go.

    Reply: Power colors are for the corporate world not fire. The fire department is a semi-military organization. You're applying for a snott nose rookie position. Leave the power stuff in the closet. Wear a white, off white, or pale blue long sleeved shirt in cotton or a cotton blend. Starch it no matter what the instructions say. No patterned shirts!
    I would also caution someone against wearing white or light blue, as these are the dress, acting Chief or Chief colours in many departments. I was told, no white and no light blue simply out of respect. Subconcious thoughts can go a long way, for or against.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Higby916 View Post
    I would also caution someone against wearing white or light blue, as these are the dress, acting Chief or Chief colours in many departments. I was told, no white and no light blue simply out of respect. Subconcious thoughts can go a long way, for or against.
    You wrote "colours". Are you from Canada?

    That's a new one on me???? I've been assisting candidates for more than 35 years and have never, ever heard this one. I believe it's another one of those everyone is an expert or "they said". I've been looking for "they" for 35 years and haven't found "they" yet.

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    As has been previously stated: do NOT wear your departmentís class A uniform. If you were so proud of your current department why would you want to leave?

    IF, and thatís a big IF, you cannot afford to purchase a suit tell the panel when you walk in the door.

    A candidate who DOES NOT wear a suit and tie certainly sticks out from the crowd. While itís not required, it is now expected.

    A candidateís attire is not part of the grading criteria. As an evaluator, you certainly notice it when someone dresses differently.

    I would certainly score a candidate higher who took a quality interview in his best pair of Dockers than I would a snake oil salesman in an expensive suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBob View Post
    You wrote "colours". Are you from Canada?

    That's a new one on me???? I've been assisting candidates for more than 35 years and have never, ever heard this one. I believe it's another one of those everyone is an expert or "they said". I've been looking for "they" for 35 years and haven't found "they" yet.

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    Yup, from Canada. And I would think when someone on the department you are interviewing for advises you not to wear the colours the Chiefs sitting across from you are wearing as a sign of respect for their uniform and rank, then I would rather listen than show up in a white shirt. I'm sure it's not a big deal, but the way jokes go, "oh look, a white shirt already!" lol
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    I think this is being discussed a little more than is necessary. It's rather simple. Dress conservative. That means a dark blue or black suit, with a non-descript shirt and tie. Simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higby916 View Post
    ...I'm sure it's not a big deal, but the way jokes go, "oh look, a white shirt already!" lol
    I've sat on each side of the table a number of times. Trust me, I've never heard that one.
    Now when it came to a physical agillity and the lucky individual donned a supplied white bunker coat or helmet or both; game on.

    It's not a big deal. White shirt will always give a professional appearance at the oral.

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    That means a dark blue or black suit,

    black is acceptable yes?! I sure hope so

    Not really. Black is a little too formal, more for dances, a promotional position for law enforcement, funerals and being a star in the movie Men in Black.

    I usually say go along with the lady in your life. It might be an exception here.

    If black is all you have, wear it.

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    If wearing a black suit somehow gives the oral board a negative impression, then I really wouldn't want to work for that department. No one said you have to wear wear a white shirt and skinny black tie with it. You can NEVER go wrong with a classic black suit......From weddings to funerals and everything in between.

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    If you buy a suit from Marshall's, TJ Maxx, WalMart, etc. Take it to your neighborhood dry cleaner/taylor and get it fitted a little bit for you. It will cost less than $30 most likely and make a $100 suit look like a $500 suit, and you won't look like one of the frumpkins sitting in the lobby with the lost look on their face. Once in the interview, pull down the tail of your jacket as you sit down so that your butt holds the suit a bit tight and wrinkle free(that is unless you are a bit over weight and need the looseness to hide that fact).
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    You have choices. If you like or only have black wear it.

    You're looking for a seamless no surprises interview. You have about 20 minutes to interview for a 25+ year career.

    What you wear is the strongest non verbal statement you can make when you walk into the room. In those critical first few moments the panel members are checking out what you're wearing, eye contact, choice of words, handshakes, expression and inflection. In the blink of an eye they've made a decision about you. Black is considered too formal for interviews. So knowing this and you're going out to buy a suit is it going to be black or more of a proven and acceptable color for interviews?

    Men: Do wear a wool suit in dark blue or gray. Pinstripes are fine, but avoid brown, black, or high fashion brightly colored suits. Sport coats or blazers are out, so is polyester. Tie should be in a solid color such as navy, red, maroon, or yellow stripe, or paisley print. Wear a white or off white, or pale blue long sleeved shirt in cotton or a cotton blend. Starch it no matter what the instructions say. No patterned shirts!

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