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    Pierce Recalls Pitman Arms
    Oct 15, 2007 4:55 PM

    Pierce Manufacturing will be conducting a National Highway Transportation Safety Administration safety recall covering Pierce custom chassis with independent front suspension for the model years 2001-2007. In particular, the pitman arms installed on the suspension system manufactured from Dec. 20, 2001 through Dec. 31, 2006 need to be replaced.

    Pierce began a field replacement this month and anticipates completing it by August 2008. Pierce is using its dealer network to notify customers of the affected units.

    In the absence of an obstacle, the condition that causes damage in the pitman arm requires a full cramp in all instances, and at slow speeds. Those conditions are:

    At full cramp, drive one wheel into and over or against a curb.

    At full cramp, drive in reverse and brake hard in a panic stop.

    Dry steer to full cramp while applying service brake.

    Pierce has had only three breaks without any apparent previous hard strikes against an object (out of a total of more than 2,600 units with 5,200 total pitman arms). The breaks in the pitman arm have all occurred during slow speed maneuvering at full cramp.

    “Our goal is to complete repairs in all identified units by August 2008. We see no valid reason to take an affected unit out of service,” said Wilson Jones, Pierce Manufacturing, president. “To ensure that apparatus drivers remain safe, Pierce is asking fire departments to instruct their drivers not to drive over curbs with the front wheels turned full left or right.”

    When the wheels are pointed straight or the unit is driving on roads, the stress level is low, which is the reason why it is safe to operate an apparatus at normal road speeds in normal manner.

    Pierce will replace all the pitman arms on the vehicles subject to the recall with new arms made of thicker and stronger material. The new pitman arms are being installed in all independent suspensions on vehicles manufactured since January.

    “Pierce recommends that Pierce dealers perform the replacement work,” Jones said. “We are providing dealers with the necessary tool and replacement kits and instructions. Otherwise, Pierce Customer Service will work with fire departments to determine who will do the work.”

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    Smile Stepping up to the plate!

    Hats off to Pierce for taking "the bull by the horns" and getting the issue handled.

    We will be getting all of our TAK-4's in need of replacements taken care of by our dealer. They have been great to work with.

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    The only reason they are stepping up is because the NTSB is forcing the issue. If they where taking the "Bull by the horns" this recall would have been taken care of in less than 6 years.

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    "The only reason they are stepping up is because the NTSB is forcing the issue. If they where taking the "Bull by the horns" this recall would have been taken care of in less than 6 years."

    very true, but they are no different than any other company,

    i.e. Chevrolet trucks with saddle fuel tanks.

    it usually boils down to $$$. Build 2000+, repair 3,
    or replace them all.

    No, I don't drink the Pierce kool-aid.

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    They were here and fixed ours last week... no fuss, no muss
    In and out in about 3-4 hours.
    Buckle Up, Slow Down, Arrive Alive
    "Everybody Goes Home"

    IACOJ 2003

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    I don't know but I here laughing.


    Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
    This space for rent

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    Talking Pierce IFS Problems

    I don't get it? If any other apparatus manufactuer had platforms falling to the ground, rear steer axles driving into the trees and now steering systems disconnecting from the drivers control, the kool aid drinkers would be crucifying them. But in the case of their kool aid supplier, they are "stepping up"! I think the kool aid is fortified with vodka !!

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    3 breaks out of 5200 is hardly an outbreak of drivers losing control. Maybe you're just looking for smoke where there is no fire. In this day of legal suits flying in every direction I hardly think the evil empire would continue to allow the trucks to be operated if they even sensed there could be a problem.

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    They got their lunch eaten by the fire service and other critics with the All-Steer issue a while back.

    No surprise they are wanting to give another impression on this issue.
    Stay low and move it in.

    Be safe.


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