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    Quote Originally Posted by BKDRAFT View Post
    I have been waiting for five years now.
    ic, so they are just like chicago, once every 40 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clark918 View Post
    Most other replies have been nice. Your's was definitely not. I do not have a poor work ethic. All I did was ask the opinions of those from FDNY. I never said that I was going to do this for sure. I work my *** off right now doing what I can to make it in the fire service. I am going through the associate degree while working at to fire departments. I just got off a 60-hour shift where I made maybe $25.

    It seemed to me you were looking for an easy way in. I must have taken it wrong then. It's good you are working your ***** off. Most kids coming into this career do not. They have the sense of "I am entitled to it" instead of actually earning it. You work your butt off, people will notice where you work now and will give you a good reference for someplace full time if you earned their respect and trust.

    I am sorry if I somehow offended some of you. I just wanted more information and opinions about this. Didn't think that was a problem. I really didn't understand what the big deal was. I'd still be taking the same tests as everyone else. The only difference is that I would be putting a few years in with EMS first.

    I am testing with other departments. I will be testing with Milwaukee this spring when they are supposedly supposed to test. I am kind of in the process with St Louis.(I have no idea what's going on though. They through away their last test that I took because of the high failure rate.) I also tested with two suburban depts recently where I am awaiting results. The main reason that I thought of this was because FDNY won't be testing for awhile now.

    Glad you are shopping around. That's the way to get it done.
    Once again, I appreciate the responses that I got. Didn't think that it would be such a big deal to ask this question. I am doing everything that I possibly can right now to make it somewhere.

    If you really want FDNY, great, more power to you. Others here have made mistakes doing exactly what you are doing right now and are telling you to not do what they did to help you out. You asked a question, now take your answers, analize them and learn from them. Don't bitch when you get answers you don't really like. Great way to loose respect big time.

    Personally, I hope you get exactly what you want. Like I said, don't let anyone stand in the way of your dreams....make them happen any way you can! Let me know if I can help, Good Luck!
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    Clark,

    I responded to a few of your posts with the Madison hiring and so forth threads. What I got from that is that you are still pretty young and you do have time. It is great to get on a job, but sometimes it takes a bit longer than one wants. Is that really a bad thing?

    Right now I think you are going about getting a job the right way. You are in school for fire protection, working as a P.O.C., doing EMT and so forth. Sometimes jobs fall in to place, sometimes it takes awhile. There are many jobs around the midwest and even Wisconsin, that will probablly be hiring soon, many do look at the education as a requirement, or at least, highly desireable. Another thing is you also have a chance to grow up some and learn responsibility and maturity in other jobs.

    Almost every FF, out there worked another job at some point and to be honest, there have been many "kids" getting hired onto a dept straight out of school. While they have the knowledge, they lack responsibility and there are some with a "sense of entitlement" attitude. There are departments out there that DO notice this and being a bit older than 20 etc does look better to some depts. You have an opportunity to learn the real world and to use that experience in the fire service, not just what you learn in school.

    Be patient and give it time. Don't be in a mad rush to get on a career job. Test when you can, but always look for things that will help you. Look for more educational opportunities like driver/operator, fire inspector, fire officer, and so forth. Look at working a civilian job and see how that can apply to the fire service, be it working in customer service, towing, construction, whatever, there are many aspects of civilian jobs that relate to the fire service. Before you know it, you will be offered a job, when you get that one, you will get about three or four more. Then the biggest question will be, which one to take?

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    Thanks for the replies you guys.

    Dickey - I didn't mean to be bitching about the other posts. It was just the one reply that bothered me because it was about my work ethic. Thanks for your helpful input though. You made some really good points.

    jccrabby - Thanks again. You've answered a lot of questions for me throughout this forum. You're right, I am kind of in a hurry to make it full time. I'm a bit of an impatient person, which can sometimes be a bad thing. I'm guessing I just passed the WI state test because I just got a letter today from Oak Creek saying that I qualified to move on. Hopefully I'll be getting one from Greenfield soon.

    I was actually thinking about it today and I realized that I'm doing pretty well for someone my age. When May comes I will of completed FF1, FF2, EMT-B, Hazmat-Tech, Fire Inspector, Fire Investigator, Fire Officer and MPO. Then by next winter I should have my associate degree. I guess it's time to just take a breath and slow down. haha

    Thanks again everyone.

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    most people i know will do anything to get a job as a firefighter, if that means mopping floors or being an emt/paramedic do it. who cares what people think of what you did before you got on. You will go through to same training as everyone else, just keep your mouth shut and ears open

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    Congrats on moving the next step! See, it will all fall into place eventually. Sounds like you have done very well for someone as young as you.

    I would look as your fist full of certificates and say, yes, he is book smart. That is half the battle. Now, does he have experience to back that up?? You are working on it, Wonderful!! Keep doing what you are doing and get a good mix of both book and street smart and you will be a much wanted commodity to any department. The best place for you right now is a POC department. That way, when the day comes, full-time Chief calls POC Chief and says "what's this guy like?" Believe me, I have had Chiefs call me from all over with my guys applying there. All this stuff happens behind the scenes. Do good at your POC place and you will get a wonderful reference. Then, like Crabby said, all of a sudden you get to pick which department you want to work for. See it happen all the time.

    If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.

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    Thanks Dickey. Where do you work btw?

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    Where are you from clark918? You mentioned Oak Creek, that's near where I used to POC. Have you tried Racine yet?

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    I live in Oak Creek. I think Racine hired my senior year of high school. I'm definitely applying there when they hire next though.

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    if you want the job, go get it.
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    yeah brooklyn's where its at, short buildings and tall stories.

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    Brooklyn Taxpayers??? Roaring up and down Flatbush Ave?? Burning your ears off? Are you even on this job, because you dont sound like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyJ View Post
    Brooklyn Taxpayers??? Roaring up and down Flatbush Ave?? Burning your ears off? Are you even on this job, because you dont sound like it.
    Sounds more like a ~cough~buff~cough~....excuse me...something was stuck in my throat. Or perhaps someone living off his fathers legacy.

    I live not to far from Flatbush Ave, my neighborhood post office is on Flatbush Ave. and I travel the road frequently...and I don't see these raging taxpayer fires he speaks of...must be watching buff films from the 70s.

    All I see are Dollar vans and Kennedy Fried Chicken!

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    Oh this should get interesting.

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    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?t=83719

    This F*in idiot is not on our job.
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    http://forums.firehouse.com/showpost...2&postcount=42

    HMMMM....

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...599#post732599

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...093#post718093

    Id say a quick call over to Rogers Ave is in order. But they dont answer the phone over there. They are too busy...... out doin it.
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    Shut your mouth pipeman and go back to your buff videos!
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    F'ing LID!!! Figures!

    Believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear...especially when it comes from the SCABs at Farragut and Flatbush Ave sitting at a volly bar out on the Island BS'ing clueless dopes like you, Pipegirl.

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    Now, how is it he was registered for the test in his Sept. '06 post, which would mean he was planning on taking the next test, which the list for isnt even out yet? He is clearly not on this job.

    And there are plenty of guys actually on the job, that actually suffered burns, that would disagree with the glory he seems to find in "burning your ears off" in a Brooklyn "taxpayer".
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    Ok. No more FDNY guys are allowed to post. Or else we may be accused of "ganging up" on someone again.











    Just kidding George.
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    ROFL that was a shortlived man hunt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clark918 View Post
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    The problem that I've been a bit concerned about is the opinion of the veteran FDNY firefighters. I have heard from some that they dislike the EMS members that do this. While many others make have come from there themselves and they were accepted fine.


    If you are looking for people to look up to you - or looking for glory,
    then get a cape.

    If you are looking for a career, and can do the job, who cares what some
    limpd**k says about how you did it, as long as you did it by the book?

    Personally, if you can put up with NYC EMS for a couple of years, being treated like a stepchild, you deserve a boost!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVFD301 View Post
    If you are looking for people to look up to you - or looking for glory,
    then get a cape.

    If you are looking for a career, and can do the job, who cares what some
    limpd**k says about how you did it, as long as you did it by the book?

    Personally, if you can put up with NYC EMS for a couple of years, being treated like a stepchild, you deserve a boost!
    So if you score a 100 on the test, and a minority scores a 66, and he/she gets hired before you, you are ok with it? Because in some places, that is, and has been in the past, by the book.

    Whether its by the book or not, its a scumbag move, especially in the past when one could FAIL 2 events on the physical, simply pass the written with a score of 70, and get hired before someone who got 100 and 100, and who worked hard to get to that point.

    It says a lot about someone's character when they write off anothers opinion and calls guys limpd*cks. Its people with this attitude, laziness, and thinking that the city owes them something that are infesting firehouses.
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    You deserve nothing, you earn this job! Take the test, compete with everyone else, wait for your list number to be reached, get on the job, shut your mouth, open your ears, and give it your all...thats how you earn respect!

    Other than that...earn a living however you want before this job....nobody cares what your "backround" is. That being said....I would take a former Iron Worker, or tradesman over an EMS guy or firefighter from ___________ville
    any day. From what I've seen, they end up making the better firefighters. That is not all-inclusive FFred,but just a general observation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    So if you score a 100 on the test, and a minority scores a 66, and he/she gets hired before you, you are ok with it? Because in some places, that is, and has been in the past, by the book.
    .
    You are right - its a bad situation. Should not happen that way. I will **** and moan at my lawmakers for making it happen that way. Durn straight. Never should be that way.

    I am not going to fault the guy who got the job that way, I will wait and see how he does the job. Its not his fault that the system sucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post

    It says a lot about someone's character when they write off anothers opinion and calls guys limpd*cks. Its people with this attitude, laziness, and thinking that the city owes them something that are infesting firehouses.
    Anyone who is going to give the guy crap because he played by the book and got hired that way, instead of putting the blame where it belongs, with the lawmakers who made it that way, IMHO would qualify as a limpd**k.

    Thats simply my opinion. (cue background music, Star Spangled Banner) you can have yours, I can have mine, and we can both be wrong.

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