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    Never mind. Found it all to be false!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleWickman View Post
    Never mind. Found it all to be false!!!!!
    What a tease!!
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    Could be seconds, could be minutes, maybe days or months, even years. Quite possibly never. I'm not sure.
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    Hey c'mon, I read the original post at work, but couldn't reply.

    That was pretty funny, and I was going to say that all you had to do was watch France. They are way farther along the "entitlement" road than the US.
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    You know it was good reading. The more I read it I thought I would look into it some more. I found that most of it was "tainted" or possible "propaganda."

    So I will post it again, along with the site that explains it.



    How Long Do We Have?

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    "A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

    "A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."
    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years."
    "During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;

    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;

    3. from courage to liberty;

    4. from liberty to abundance;

    5. from abundance to complacency;

    6. from complacency to apathy;

    7. from apathy to dependence;

    8. from dependence back into bondage."

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

    Number of States won by:
    Gore: 19
    Bush: 29

    Square miles of land won by:
    Gore: 580,000
    Bush: 2,427,000

    Population of counties won by:
    Gore: 127 million
    Bush: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
    Gore: 13.2
    Bush: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..." Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.


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    Last I checked, in either Canada or the US, you have to show up to vote.

    It doesn't matter if you have 200 million people and 80% of the geography, if they don't show up to vote, they don't count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyleWickman View Post
    Never mind. Found it all to be false!!!!!
    3 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 44 seconds exactly.

    What was the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell View Post
    Last I checked, in either Canada or the US, you have to show up to vote.

    It doesn't matter if you have 200 million people and 80% of the geography, if they don't show up to vote, they don't count.
    You can vote absentee, you don't actually have to show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malana1 View Post
    You can vote absentee, you don't actually have to show up.
    In Canada we can only do that under special circumstances, like being employed outside the country during voting season.
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    I always love these emails. Amazing how many people just automatically believe something as absolute truth because it popped into their Inbox.

    I give you kudos for doing the digging to determine its lack of facts.
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    3 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes, and 44 seconds exactly
    down to 3 days, 2 hours roughly.
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    The standard answer for everything- Two weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    The standard answer for everything- Two weeks.
    ahhh yes, but the secret is to not tell them 2 weeks from when.
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    you have the time you want to have,it depends on you.but was it a question of philosophy?or poltical question?lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CALFFBOU View Post
    The standard answer for everything- Two weeks.
    I thought the answer was "Forty-two".
    If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    I thought the answer was "Forty-two".
    But what was the Question? That will take you a million years to figure out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchfireball View Post
    you have the time you want to have,it depends on you.but was it a question of philosophy?or poltical question?lol.
    I'd go with philosophy....politics is too explosive on this board!

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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    But what was the Question? That will take you a million years to figure out.


    "I must kill Man-Bear-Pig"..
    You got a photo of a "man-bear-pig"? I've never heard of one of those before. Is it like the Suffield, Alberta Jackalope?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    You got a photo of a "man-bear-pig"? I've never heard of one of those before. Is it like the Suffield, Alberta Jackalope?

    Al Gore's nemesis.
    So you call this your free country
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post

    Al Gore's nemesis.
    Ahhh... see. Yours is a cartoon drawing, mine is a "real" photograph.
    If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

    "I may be slow, but my work is poor." Chief Dave Balding, MVFD

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
    You got a photo of a "man-bear-pig"? I've never heard of one of those before. Is it like the Suffield, Alberta Jackalope?
    wow,what a pic.i have never seen such animal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchfireball View Post
    wow,what a pic.i have never seen such animal.
    Uh oh!!! Here come the jackalope stories....
    (sit back and get comfy French)

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    Quote Originally Posted by firecat1 View Post
    Uh oh!!! Here come the jackalope stories....
    (sit back and get comfy French)
    may i have some pop corn?lol.
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