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    Wink Red or Blue Lights for Volunteers??

    Sorry to trick you, but now that I got your attention I have a question. Does your dept. have any type of formal report that is filled out when you do any type of pub. ed? Our chief wants us to come up with a type of run report when we do any type of pr, fire prevention, station tours, etc. Just wondering on what type of info you might have on yours.

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    Nobody here can take a little joke? It seems that the only posts here that get any response are about what type, color, amount, etc. of emergency lights some people use in their personal vehicles. Just having some fun with a topic beat to death ( I think) in this forum. Sorry if I offended anyone with how I chose to ask a different question that might not have gotten any views normally. But feel free to answer the question that the post is asking how you wish or answer the question that I presented to the forum.

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    It is just a way to build up run totals and totally unnecessary.

    Are you going to have to generate an incident report when a young mother comes in with her kid to look at a fire truck?

    What if you are out shopping for a meal at trhew casa del fuego and someoen asks you a quaetion about smoke detectors?

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    What if your dept gets an audit from your state and they want you to show them that your dept does some type of public relation or education. How would you prove that you actually did something without having some kind of written document?

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    Gonzo, I think they more want it track time/amount of members then to add calls, Keith, correct me if I'm wrong there.

    Keith, we use a basic form, it has all the members names, date, type of function-duty crew, training, parade, pre-arranged standby, etc... You simply check which box apply's and write in the location. There is a spot for "other" and you write what the function is.

    This is kept totally seperate from the call log, and looks nothing like it so as to not confuse the 2.
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    The reason for the report is to document the type of public education/appearances my dept does for recording keeping purposes.

    P.S. Nobody has to answer if they don't want & I wouldn't call it tricking....think of it as trojan horse questioning.

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    How about no lights at all?
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    What software are you using to conduct your nifrs? most software programs (i.e firehouse)have a area that you can log training and public education. you enter your time and it can print a report as to a breakdown of
    hours/individual. we use it for almost everything trainging thing we do, personally and ojt. The thing is getting people to enter it, We also have a spread sheet (excel) for monthly reports for speciality possitions. But it all goes into firehouse.

    Agree loose the lights!!!!!! you still have to obey the law anyway.
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    If you will put the red lights on the drivers side and the blue lights on the passenger side, we will be able to tell if you are coming or going....unless of course you are in reverse

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    Default Lose the lights definitely

    I definitely agree with a number of others, volunteers have absolutely no earthly use for putting flashing or emergency lights on POV. I'm not sure about all of Canada, maybe Malahat or MC Caldwell or RspctfromCalgary can give more info, but years ago, this came up in some of the smaller towns around Edmonton. I believe at that time it was the Provincial Fire Commissioner who mentioned that putting lights on POV would be just asking for some idiot to run a stop and kill someone. I remember there were some that did it anyway, they were also the ones who walked around with an equipment belt that held more crap than a Marines full load out and bought every bloody T Shirt extolling the fearlessness and daring of fire fighters.
    The professional volunteers simply show up, gear up, head out and do the job safely. Lets keep it that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanLoader View Post
    I definitely agree with a number of others, volunteers have absolutely no earthly use for putting flashing or emergency lights on POV. I'm not sure about all of Canada, maybe Malahat or MC Caldwell or RspctfromCalgary can give more info, but years ago, this came up in some of the smaller towns around Edmonton. I believe at that time it was the Provincial Fire Commissioner who mentioned that putting lights on POV would be just asking for some idiot to run a stop and kill someone. I remember there were some that did it anyway, they were also the ones who walked around with an equipment belt that held more crap than a Marines full load out and bought every bloody T Shirt extolling the fearlessness and daring of fire fighters.
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    Why would anyone do that?

    Just fly in with an answer.

    Yes you should be using a combination nozzle on your POV, directly mounted to the two hoods.

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    on the form include:
    Type of event: Fire prevention/ fire house tour etc.
    Who was it for: Your local boy scouts, pre-school etc
    Address: both where it was held and the address of who it was held for
    phone: for who the event was for
    Date/time: started and ended (might want to include cleanup time)
    Time: man/woman hours
    Who attended
    What did you use: tools/apparatus. length of time
    Description of what you did.
    Depending on what you do; you may want a place for injuries that occured with the public and for your members, also document if there were not any injuries. I know sounds weird but more of a CYA especially for showing kids apparatus and vehicle extrication demonstrations.

    Hope this helps;any other questions just ask

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    You forgot to include a few things on your report:

    1. How many lights were used to respond on the PR call.
    2. How many hoods your guys were wearing.
    4. Whether this is an interior or exterior PR call.
    5. Don't for get to annotate what you used to fill out the report; pencil or pen?

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    I get your joke, probably shouldn't do that anymore.

    To answer your question, no, we do not fill out anything on public relations. Is your Chief trying to justify the fire prevention budget or is he trying to keep tabs on your time? Think of why he is asking that.

    If I had to fill something out it would be a short and sweet form. There definately should not be any case numbers involved to pad the stats at the end of the year either.
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    We have a form we fill out as well. Documentation is required for all pub ed activities if you wnat to get the extra pub ed credit available when rating time comes around.

    In addition, this is probably our most important function, and it needs to be tracked the same as runs, training, hydrant inspections or anything else we do.

    Time/Date
    Organization & contact person.
    Number of juvenile and adult attendees.
    Program time.
    Specific content of program (escape, matches/lighters, SDR, extingushers, etc)
    Resources used (puppets, robot, projection equipment, etc.)
    Personnel & Manhours including travel and setup/breakdown times.
    Followup required.

    We also have each teacher fill out a comprehensive evalaution if it was a Pre-K, K or school prgram.

    We have a voluntary evaluation for all adults for any extinguisher or Community Outreach program.

    I would be happy to provide any of these if you wish. Contact me at Firesafetyed@aol.com.
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    When doing reports, we close up the station, turn out the lights and get it real dark. Then, turn on a red flasher for emergency type reports and turn on a blue run for non-emer/education reports.
    You also have to make different siren noises with your voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltkeith25 View Post
    The reason for the report is to document the type of public education/appearances my dept does for recording keeping purposes.

    P.S. Nobody has to answer if they don't want & I wouldn't call it tricking....think of it as trojan horse questioning.

    Trojan Horse, nows theres a person you REALLY didnt need to bring up!
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    We get training hours for Public Safety Education when we do that sort of thing (mainly open house, or giving away smoke detectors at a church function), but never fill out an incident report over it. We do Red/White lights here. I have an amber traffic advisor on the back of my lightbar. Remember, fully stop at intersections and make sure every lane of traffic has made eye contact and fully stopped before proceeding through!

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