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    Default 9/11 sickness a hoax...

    ...says this guy.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/12032007...yth_620852.htm

    The terms of my current employment do not allow me to email the paper to disagree, but I certainly think that we need to do a better job of raising awareness about this issue.


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    Adam Brodsky, New York Post, Mutt. What do these 3 things have in common ?
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    You should probably read the article before you react.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny46 View Post
    You should probably read the article before you react.
    What he said.
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    The article in question so much does not say that the 9/11 Sickness is a hoax, but much more that the deaths that have occurred, that some say are 9/11 related health issues, are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny46 View Post
    You should probably read the article before you react.
    Mark this date on your calendars -- I agree with johnny.
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    I kinda got the impression that he was trying to imply that that anyone claiming to be ill from complications from 9/11 is just using that as an excuse to cover up other health problems not linked to 9/11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT View Post
    Adam Brodsky, New York Post, Mutt. What do these 3 things have in common ?
    Don't blaim the columnist for the poor headline written by the copy editor. However it did get folks attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEPBACK200FEET View Post
    I kinda got the impression that he was trying to imply that that anyone claiming to be ill from complications from 9/11 is just using that as an excuse to cover up other health problems not linked to 9/11.
    Only to a point, what most know, is that the dust ingested during the 9/11 cleanup can only be attributed currently, to have aggravated current problems, or brought on new problems that some have not suffered from previously. Some of the cases that were noted in the article were clearly done so as those have been the most public. None of the illnesses that have been related to 9/11 can be linked as the factor that CAUSED the death, it may have made a prior problem worse, but was not the sole problem.
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    I had an uncle who died six years ago from mesothelioma, a condition caused by exposure to asbestos dust. His case was traced back to a ship collision while he was in the Navy in the early 1950's. He was a fireman in one of the ship's boiler rooms.

    A lot of the 9/11 cases may not manifest themselves for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    A lot of the 9/11 cases may not manifest themselves for years.
    This is the reason that we have fought long and hard for presumptive legislation.

    I don't think anyone can argue that breathing that crap from the towers, in pulverized powder form, for months on end, won't cause a whole host of health issues. The least of which is death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
    I had an uncle who died six years ago from mesothelioma, a condition caused by exposure to asbestos dust. His case was traced back to a ship collision while he was in the Navy in the early 1950's. He was a fireman in one of the ship's boiler rooms.

    A lot of the 9/11 cases may not manifest themselves for years.
    I think it'll be minimum of another 10-15 years before the full scope of this will be realized.
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    I did read the article before I posted. I stand by my original assessment. I think the author comes off sounding like a patronizing jackass. If you think people working on that pile arent or arent getting sick, you are a jackass too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT View Post
    I did read the article before I posted. I stand by my original assessment. I think the author comes off sounding like a patronizing jackass. If you think people working on that pile arent or arent getting sick, you are a jackass too.
    I don't think anyone here is saying that people that worked on the pile are NOT getting sick..that's an obvious given. But what this article IS saying is that the deaths(citied in this article)that have occurred and were blamed on 9/11 sickness have NOT been caused solely by the dust.
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    Like I said before, I read the article. I also was able to read between the lines. The author comes off just a bit too glib for my liking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT View Post
    The author comes off just a bit too glib for my liking.
    Oh, I don't disagree..he does seem like a bit of a pretentious jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MIKEYLIKESIT View Post
    I did read the article before I posted. I stand by my original assessment. I think the author comes off sounding like a patronizing jackass. If you think people working on that pile arent or arent getting sick, you are a jackass too.
    No one denies that 9/11 workers, especially those who worked long hours and shunned respirators, have experienced illnesses - coughs, runny noses, other respiratory maladies and worse. Some may contract 9/11-linked diseases in the future.
    This doesn't appear to deny illnesses. It's flippant, but it doesn't deny illnesses--it merely gives more time to less serious effects and passing vague mention to "worse."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureAdrenalin View Post
    I think it'll be minimum of another 10-15 years before the full scope of this will be realized.

    I agree. You don't get cancer right away after you start smoking. Give it sometime and we will see more deaths from 9/11 arise.
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    To me it seemed the author was trying to tell another side of the story but it was obviously jaded to one side, not done objectively at all like the media should be.

    I also think we won't see any serious signs of illness for 20 years or better.... just like Agent Orange in Vietnam
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dickey View Post
    To me it seemed the author was trying to tell another side of the story but it was obviously jaded to one side, not done objectively at all like the media should be.
    He is not a reporter, he is a columnist and is suppossed to take and push one side of the story, a legit newspaper will have other columnists with an opposing point of view who can take up the issue for the other side if they so choose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickey View Post
    I also think we won't see any serious signs of illness for 20 years or better.... just like Agent Orange in Vietnam
    Guys were dieing from Agent Orange after less than a decade, although many of them were exposed for far longer than it took to clear Ground Zero.
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