My station has Engine 2, Tanker 2, Rescue 2, EMS-2, Brush 2 and Car 2. The only station in the county with two engines uses the term "Wagon" for the second out engine (a term that people who aren't from Virginia, DC, and Maryland are rarely familiar with). Very easy for the mutual aid jurisdictions we run with to identify what kind of rig is coming to them. Easier for them to understand that "Tanker 2" is a tanker is versus "261" which could be a ladder truck or brush truck for all they know.
This style of unit numbering (apparatus type + station number) is the norm for virtually every city and county in this area.
As for the original topic, our department (work) uses RIC and RIT interchangeably. Only a few FDNY groupies amongst the 525 people on the department would even know what FAST is. RIT is what we use at the VFD.
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08-27-2012, 10:57 PM #41
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08-28-2012, 12:38 AM #42
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Sorry, not trying to argue, just trying to make sure I understand your post correctly.
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08-30-2012, 10:53 PM #44
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I could care less if a dept. calls it a RIT, RIC, FAST or whatever. I'm more concerned that they know what to do than if they know what the acronym is stands for.
As for numbering systems, around here, the biggest dept. has station numbers 1-49, the next dept. has 50-59, then the next has 60-69 and so on. It goes out to the surrounding counties. Whether it's engine 1, or engine 301, we know the dept, station, and type of equipment is coming.
09-03-2012, 06:27 PM #45
Their first fire after the protocol went into effect, my friend's Ladder company was tasked with the RIT assignment... Fire alarm took the first letter of Firefighter Assistance Rescue Team and used that for the acronym.
"Fire Alarm to Ladder 2, respond to the fire scene, you are the designated FART!"
It got changed to FAST right after that!"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
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09-03-2012, 11:38 PM #46
Police in my area formed a FART group. Fatal Accident Response Team. They are specially trained in accident investigation/reconstruction/etc. They are requested to all fatal accidents and near fatal ones. They still use FART. We get a chuckle out of it the first couple times. Then we got past that phase."This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
09-29-2012, 08:31 PM #47
09-30-2012, 11:04 PM #48
Now it's an old fart.
Should see the new gear we got....harness built into the pants instead of the Gemtor. No more big biner that we used to clip onto guys SCBA's to drag them out, no more using the big biner to hook onto ladders....gonna have to figure other ways to do this..or buy new biners to add on."This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
10-01-2012, 04:10 PM #49
10-20-2012, 10:38 AM #50
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Terds... Farts..... Only in FD can we take an important duty/task and turn it into bathroom humor. Love it!
Now I kinda sped read through this as I multi-tasking so I apologize if this was already covered.. but Wasnt there a big push to actually move away from using RIT all together? I could have sworn I read an article in firehouse Mag. that said they were trying to move past the use of RIT/RIC "team" and rather train all firefighters on a given department the duties of RIT/RIC and how to get themselves out of a jam. Don't get me wrong I personally still want that RIT team availible, but lets face it, there are some areas that just dont have that kind of manpower, then half the time the people showing up dont actually have any formal RIT/RIC training/certification.
11-20-2012, 03:18 PM #51
As far as training everyone on RIT team operations, that really depends on the area. In my career dept., 4th due engine is typically the RIT team, so on any given day that you're on an engine company, you could be RIT at a fire. Whereas the area where my volly house is, there are certain companies that are trained to a county standard for RIT, and can be used as a RIT team. And those departments are called by the neighboring towns when a RIT team is needed.
11-21-2012, 01:40 PM #52
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I don't think that you will be able to standardize this... I understand that it is a possible issue with mutual aide and other things of that sort... I do think that a way to fix the issue on a local level is to do mutual aide training. Get to know eachothers operations, termonology, trucks, and personalities... I understand that easier said than done.
I do agree that the terms should be limited to RIT or RIC. We use RIC where I am from. I do notice that alot of the "RIC Bags" say "RIT" on them...
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