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    The last page or two of this thread makes me want to cry. Trying to predict my future is killing me....So close, but still soo far. Everything done except psych and run. 183x

    Everyone's telling me I'm stupid and crazy for wanting this job so badly. Doing the same job but in a different city, and willing to take a huge paycut to do more work. But to me, it's absolutely without doubt 100% worth it. Praying I will make it within 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coooGy View Post
    The last page or two of this thread makes me want to cry. Trying to predict my future is killing me....So close, but still soo far. Everything done except psych and run. 183x

    Everyone's telling me I'm stupid and crazy for wanting this job so badly. Doing the same job but in a different city, and willing to take a huge paycut to do more work. But to me, it's absolutely without doubt 100% worth it. Praying I will make it within 2009.
    Thats the right attitude.. Hang in there.. If you really want this job and stick it through, you'll get the job. Don't listen to people that try to bring you down. It's not worth the aggravation.
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    so iam guessing that they will shorten the length and likewise the amount of recruits, so if it goes from 6months with 300 candidates or 3months with 100 or 150 which is the way it was, would it have that great of an impact?

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    It really has been a roller coaster ride thus far. I'm just wondering what list number they'll reach for the Jan. class if they do shorten the academy and reduce the class size. As far as what we can do right now, we can all continue to get in shape for the academy and hope for the best...
    6019- was sitting at 13xx
    2000- now sitting at 18xx

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    well this sucks balls

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    is the only reason there is no hiring freeze or class cancellation due to the scrutiny the department has gotten because theyre lack of minority firefighters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongCut View Post
    well this sucks balls
    very well said

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    when they were doing 3 month classes what size were they?

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    i just went and read/listened to the story on ny1, and it didn't say the engine companies would be closed outright, but that the "nighttime hours at 5 engine companies that also contain ladder companies" would be reduced.

    I think that this can be taken one of two ways, either those companies will be shut down for the night tour, or that they will take the 5th fireman off the company

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    wow just came home from work and reading the last two pages totally took the life out of me....just hope they will reach me

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    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?se...cal&id=6487868

    NEW YORK (WABC) -- With Wall Street revenue dropping and no easy alternatives at hand New York City, Mayor Mike Bloomberg is expected to announce deep cuts in the city workforce.

    Eyewitness News has learned that in order to close a $4 billion budget gap the city is cancelling the police academy January 2009 class, cutting 500 jobs in parks and education, cutting back nighttime operations at five firehouses and reducing firefighter training.

    In all, the city will reduce its workforce by about 3000 jobs through attrition and through layoffs in an effort to close a widening budget gap that is the result of the crisis in the financial markets.

    Wall Street and related jobs provide an estimated 20 percent of the city's revenue.

    Bloomberg will hold a news conference on Wednesday.

    "The Mayor will be presenting a new financial plan, which has required major revisions in light of the recent financial upheaval. It will require sacrifice from every city agency and in some senses, every New Yorker. But we need to take these painful but necessary steps now; delaying the inevitable will only make it worse," Deputy Mayor for Operations Edward Skyler said.

    Bloomberg is expected to explain that the belt tightening is needed as city budget gap grows to $4 billion for fiscal 2009 and 2010. That gap, is now about $700,000,000 million greater than the estimate from just a few weeks ago of $3.3 billion.

    Bloomberg was asked at a news conference Tuesday to preview his budget plan, and while he did not give details, he said he would likely ask for a "slowdown, but not really for a meltdown."

    "We don't know just how deep this recession is going to go or for how long," he said.

    By using his budget knife on key jobs and services such as new police officers, education employees and the dental health clinics, which serve 17,000 children each year, Bloomberg is making some politically risky moves. It sets up a more difficult environment as he prepares to run for re-election next year.

    The billionaire independent mayor last month announced that he believes the city needs him to stay on past the end of 2009, when his second term ends, to manage the long-term effects of the financial crisis and economic downturn. In just a matter of weeks, he convinced the City Council to change the law that limited him and other officeholders to two consecutive terms, and on Monday he signed the bill allowing him to run for mayor again.

    Bloomberg, who has enjoyed approval ratings in the 70s since his re-election in 2005, may see those numbers fall back to the levels of his first term, when he was making cuts and raising taxes to help reverse the city's post-Sept. 11 economic woes. His political opponents will no doubt say the city cannot survive without the programs and jobs he is cutting.

    The mayor told reporters Tuesday that the belt-tightening he's announcing this week "certainly is not going to be the last step." If revenues fall more than what is projected, he said, the city will take additional action.

    For now, his update will show that the city faces budget gaps of $4 billion this fiscal year and next, the administration official said.

    To help bridge those deficits, Bloomberg asked all city agencies in September to come up with their own plans to cut spending by 2.5 percent this fiscal year, which ends next June, and additional cuts of 5 percent the following year.

    Those are targeted to save $500 million this year and $1 billion in fiscal 2010.

    The plans include canceling the January 2009 police academy class, which means that approximately 1,100 would-be cadets will not enter the six-month program as planned. The next class would begin in July 2009.

    Canceling an academy class is an unusual move. Past mayors have more commonly delayed the start of a class by a few months and then accelerated later classes; David Dinkins did it in 1993, Rudy Giuliani in 1994.

    In the education department, the city will cut 475 jobs. The majority are central administrative jobs, and about 50 are in schools, but not teachers.

    The firefighting training academy will reduce its program from 23 weeks to 18 weeks to save operational costs. The mayor, who drew criticism when he closed firehouses to save money during his first term, also plans to eliminate nighttime engine companies in five firehouses that also have ladder companies. The move allows those firehouses to stay open but with fewer firefighters at night.

    The Department of Health will close its dental health clinics for poor children. Officials said the city would rather not shut down the program, but lacking other options they decided to eliminate a service that many families can access through Medicaid.

    Other cuts include eliminating 320 seasonal parks department jobs and not filling 187 sanitation jobs dedicated to street cleaning.

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    How many candidates do you think they'll put in the academy?
    6019- was sitting at 13xx
    2000- now sitting at 18xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by QCFRANKC View Post
    Did you pass all of your medical on the first attempt or did you have to go back for something?
    I passed everything on the first try. I was hoping to have a shot at the Jan class, after the recent updates, I'm just keeping my fingers crossed to get hired within the next year. Good luck everyone.

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    so i'm assuming i should say goodbye to my hopes of getting in off of this list sitting at 6800's with all this talk of cutbacks. i guess i will think about going back to school to finish an associates and get the required credits to join the PD for the time being to start collecting towards my 20years. Also, with the pay increase for the PD it shouldn't be TOO unbearable a job. with obama now we might see a total turn in the economy, the people have spoken in great numbers and i think there will be a lot of happy people in the years to come, what will that do for the economy/job situation? it's going to be a very interesting next couple of years! Obamarama!
    Sh*t List 6019 - 68xx's

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    I hate being right! Well hopefully bloomberg still allows at least 2 academies a year though candidates will be hearing crickets in the future classes cuz there will be so few in each class. Praying they will still reach 39xx before 2012. Damn this sucks!

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    Has anyone spoken to their investigator regarding everything that has just surfaced within the last 24 hours? I'm just curious as to how this is being explained by those at Metrotech or if they are even acknowledging what is being said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles8683 View Post
    so iam guessing that they will shorten the length and likewise the amount of recruits, so if it goes from 6months with 300 candidates or 3months with 100 or 150 which is the way it was, would it have that great of an impact?
    Rumor around the rock is it'll be the same amount (300 candidates) but with the shorter time and they will NOT be running more classes. Still two a year. If they shorten it to 3 months, for example, there will still only be 2 classes a year, with 6 months totall off-time. This will save money on, among other things, the overtime instructors are getting at the rock. Take it with a grain of salt-talk is talk (as we've found time and time again on this forum)

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    any body have the number to get in touch with investigators on hand..i can't remember where i put it. gotta see what's going on, from what it seems, it's not looking good for me for jan. sitting at 18xx, but deff still need to check in

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    I don't know, I can't see them hiring 300, 2 classes a year anymore. Attrition rate is barely 300 a year , 100 plus overstaffed everyday as it is and already jan class might only be 200. So can somebody explain how its going to be 300 a class x 2 year???

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    Lightbulb take with a grain of salt

    I just heard from somone in 21xx , and his investigator told him he has a slim chance of making the summer 09 class. Take it for what its worth.

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    Lightbulb Fyi

    JUST GOT SOME INFO ON THE BUDGET. I WAS DOING SOME DIGGING AND FOUND MAYOR BLOOMBERGS OFFICIAL RELEASE ON THE BUDGET.
    I CLICKED AND PASTED THE FOLLOWING:
    Reducing peak headcount at the New York City Police Department by 1,000. Two police academy classes were planned for 2009. The peak headcount reduction will be achieved by canceling the January 2009 academy class. The July 2009 police academy class will add 2,000 new officers to the force as will subsequent classes.


    Eliminating nighttime shifts at five engine companies in firehouses where ladder companies will remain fully staffed. Additionally, the firefighting training academy for probationary firefighters will be reduced from 23 weeks to 18 weeks.

    READ THE LAST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, IT APPEARS ITS AN INDICATION THAT IT WILL NOT AFFECT PROBIE SCHOOL CLASSES AS ALTHOUGH PD JAN CLASS IS CANCELLED, JULY 09 CLASS WILL CARRY 2K GUYS. MY LIST# IS 1953 - KEEPING THE HOPE ALIVE FOR JULY '09

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    hey spoke to a supervisor at metrotech today. I explained to her how everyone is getting nervous as should be its right in our reach. i am list number 11XX and i said will there def be a january 09 class she said yes. then i went on to ask her will they reach my list number. she said yes i should be recieving a letter in the mid to late stages of november for the run on Dec 7th. so although it may not be much info, the guys/girls below 11xx can ease there minds from what i heard today. best of luck to everyone ..and keep working hard almost here boys.

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    welcome to the wide world of the brownout- i'm curious to see what companies they'll be

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    hey timpala, turn your pm's on and send me a message

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    spoke to my investigator this morning and I was told that the class is still on as far as they know down there. I also asked about my chances of getting in at list number in mid #1400's and I was told definitely, they have already passed my number and all I have to worry about is finishing the run in under 12mins.

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