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    Quote Originally Posted by Waiting4Months View Post
    Company from the left coast is currently working on the new test. Don't know the name.
    Last I've heard it's still these guys: http://candidate.psiexams.com/index.jsp

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffbam24 View Post
    Last I've heard it's still these guys: http://candidate.psiexams.com/index.jsp
    If they went with an online exam you could find out your score on the spot. Obviously you wouldn't know your list # right away, but at least it's something....i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HopefulFF View Post
    If they went with an online exam you could find out your score on the spot. Obviously you wouldn't know your list # right away, but at least it's something....i guess.
    I can't see how it would be feasibly possible to have what will most likely be AT LEAST 40,000 people taking a computerized test at the same time. I highly doubt the city has enough resources for that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waiting4Months View Post
    Test is going to be thrown out.

    Absolutely not a single sign in the universe that bloomy (NYC) or anyone else is going to appeal any of these bs decisions. Company from the left coast is currently working on the new test. Don't know the name.

    Looks like it's over unless billionaires come out of the woodwork to take this fight up for us.

    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The city has stated that they WILL appeal. They cannot appeal until the judge issues his final order and he has NOT done this yet. Only when the process is complete can the city appeal.

    There was a merit matters meeting last night. A whopping ONE person decided to show up from the 6019 group. I think you should have been a little better represented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner09 View Post
    I can't see how it would be feasibly possible to have what will most likely be AT LEAST 40,000 people taking a computerized test at the same time. I highly doubt the city has enough resources for that.....
    The same way they're doing the NYPD Exam right now, I would presume. The test is open all month, M-F with several times a day.

    While we're on the subject, has anyone else taken the NYPD Exam!?

    - I know, I know, it's not the job we WANT... but, you hear from all of the guys "Take every test there is!" ... So I took it - scores automatically.

    Without the residency credits and with the "proposed answer key", I scored a 90.58... not as high as I was hoping for... but not too shabby

    Anyone else take it?? How'd you score???

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    Quote Originally Posted by heFFcan6019 View Post
    The same way they're doing the NYPD Exam right now, I would presume. The test is open all month, M-F with several times a day.

    While we're on the subject, has anyone else taken the NYPD Exam!?

    - I know, I know, it's not the job we WANT... but, you hear from all of the guys "Take every test there is!" ... So I took it - scores automatically.

    Without the residency credits and with the "proposed answer key", I scored a 90.58... not as high as I was hoping for... but not too shabby

    Anyone else take it?? How'd you score???

    I recently re-opened my case (exam's from 2007), but they mysteriously lost any record of me coming in to re-open it. So now I have to fax them my transcript and driver's license. I'm still not set on joining the department, but I figure it's better to just go through the process and then have the power to make the choice later on (assuming I pass every step).

    I firmly believe that FDNY is my calling, and part me is telling me that I will be out at the Rock training with all of you some day... Hopefully 19FDNY77's rumor comes to fruition. I'm sure everyone on here is praying every day and night. It's about time the Higher Power(s) listen(s) to our prayers...

    P.S. My list# for the NYPD is in the 20's.

    P.P.S. Our apologies for not showing up to the Merit Matters meeting last night, FDsouthbxNY. I'm sure more of us will show up to the next meeting. I'll certainly try my best (hopefully my schedule isn't all focked up. Arg...).
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    6019- was sitting at 13xx
    2000- now sitting at 18xx

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    [QUOTE=heFFcan6019;1222171]The same way they're doing the NYPD Exam right now, I would presume. The test is open all month, M-F with several times a day.

    that would actually work well, because if you can electronicly check off that ur a vet and a resident for extra points they could be added at the final score and then at the end of the month the tests are already graded a list is formed electronically. making it alot quicker than the grading process now, and could have a class in quicker is that correct or am i way off?

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    do all city agencies award 5points to both vets and residents or was it just a way of recruiting for the fdny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by heFFcan6019 View Post
    The same way they're doing the NYPD Exam right now, I would presume. The test is open all month, M-F with several times a day.

    While we're on the subject, has anyone else taken the NYPD Exam!?

    - I know, I know, it's not the job we WANT... but, you hear from all of the guys "Take every test there is!" ... So I took it - scores automatically.

    Without the residency credits and with the "proposed answer key", I scored a 90.58... not as high as I was hoping for... but not too shabby

    Anyone else take it?? How'd you score???

    Yeah trust me, I thought about that. Especially being that I recently took NYPD as well. The problem with doing this for FDNY would be protecting the integrity of the test. I am thinking they must change things around in the NYPD exam on certain days. Also, everybody has a different version of the exam, chosen at random. And they definitely use a different memorization portion, probably very frequently.

    With the utter insanity that FDNY has gone through with their testing, I don't see how every body can be given different versions of the test. This would cause the world to implode on itself. I can just imagine how quickly lawsuits would be filed.....

    (Yes I know, NYPD never gets sued for their testing. Trust me, I am friggin baffled at this. Their test is more difficult)

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles8683 View Post
    do all city agencies award 5points to both vets and residents or was it just a way of recruiting for the fdny?
    The Vets and the Residency points were not part of the computerized test... they were on a scantron separately

    ...and not sure about whether all city agencies awards points for vets, res, sibl/fam, etc... but I believe I saw all of the above on the Police test

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    Quote Originally Posted by heFFcan6019 View Post
    The same way they're doing the NYPD Exam right now, I would presume. The test is open all month, M-F with several times a day.

    While we're on the subject, has anyone else taken the NYPD Exam!?

    - I know, I know, it's not the job we WANT... but, you hear from all of the guys "Take every test there is!" ... So I took it - scores automatically.

    Without the residency credits and with the "proposed answer key", I scored a 90.58... not as high as I was hoping for... but not too shabby

    Anyone else take it?? How'd you score???
    That's pretty much what I was thinking. But they'd prob do it in a smaller window than the always open NYPD exam window...man if only the FDNY went that route, lol.

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    I spoke to DCAS today and I found out that if you are on the special military list that you have 2 years from the special military date to be hired. After that you are taken off and you can no longer be hired and will have to retake the test again. I asked how is that legal considering not hiring veterans who are in line for employment before or during their military service is against labor law. She said that's just the way it goes and there was nothing she could say about the validity of the list because it's still legally ongoing. I'm going to contact a lawyer on behalf of any veterans on the special military list or just veterans in general and see what can be done or if any organizations can put pressure on the city ie: VFW, American Legion, Amvets, DAV etc. Also my GF got angry and wrote an email to Michael Savage so maybe our cAuse may get some National Airtime lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDsouthbxNY View Post
    You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The city has stated that they WILL appeal. They cannot appeal until the judge issues his final order and he has NOT done this yet. Only when the process is complete can the city appeal.

    There was a merit matters meeting last night. A whopping ONE person decided to show up from the 6019 group. I think you should have been a little better represented.
    With all due respect FDsouthbxNY, I know the city (and bloomy) "said" that, but zero action/posturing has been taken. I can assure you I'm not making things up, my source of that information (nearly verbatim) is extremely well-placed. I won't use names here and I'm afraid hints would quickly give the person away.

    I only hope that once the bill comes through to the city on anything ranging from OT to "damage payments" to minority applicants, etc., the city gets its affairs in order and rethinks its lack of proactive legal steps with the quickness. I can see cost to the city being well into the millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0311ico View Post
    I spoke to DCAS today and I found out that if you are on the special military list that you have 2 years from the special military date to be hired. After that you are taken off and you can no longer be hired and will have to retake the test again. I asked how is that legal considering not hiring veterans who are in line for employment before or during their military service is against labor law. She said that's just the way it goes and there was nothing she could say about the validity of the list because it's still legally ongoing. I'm going to contact a lawyer on behalf of any veterans on the special military list or just veterans in general and see what can be done or if any organizations can put pressure on the city ie: VFW, American Legion, Amvets, DAV etc. Also my GF got angry and wrote an email to Michael Savage so maybe our cAuse may get some National Airtime lol
    Don't forget IAVA, your Congressman's VA rep (or senator for that matter), and the mayor's office's VA person. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waiting4Months View Post
    Don't forget IAVA, your Congressman's VA rep (or senator for that matter), and the mayor's office's VA person. Good luck!
    Thanks for the info. I'm gonna call congressman Peter Kings office tomorrow. I know he's very conservative and pro-vet/police/FD. I'm gonna use my puerto rican-ness see how far I can push lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waiting4Months View Post
    With all due respect FDsouthbxNY, I know the city (and bloomy) "said" that, but zero action/posturing has been taken. I can assure you I'm not making things up, my source of that information (nearly verbatim) is extremely well-placed. I won't use names here and I'm afraid hints would quickly give the person away.

    I only hope that once the bill comes through to the city on anything ranging from OT to "damage payments" to minority applicants, etc., the city gets its affairs in order and rethinks its lack of proactive legal steps with the quickness. I can see cost to the city being well into the millions.
    First of all, I don't need your respect. Neither does anyone else. What they need is facts. This nameless source of yours is completely meaningless. Completely! The city has every intention to appeal. They've said this in the press and they've said this to the attorney associated with Merit Matters. You'd know this if you'd gotten off your *** and attended the meeting last night. It take a very long time to proceed with an appeal. It's a very complex process and every facet of the initial case has to be completed before an appeal can proceed. This has not yet occurred, so the city can do nothing.

    Everything is at a standstill until Judge Garaufis offers is final ruling including the damages phase, and that has not yet concluded. I assure you, the city has no intention of accepting a ruling of INTENTIONAL discrimination. They will appeal when the law permits.

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    Hey Daniel,



    The Council Member is supporting the bill to support an age extension for FDNY candidates. The legislative process can take time so I will keep you notified as progress is made.



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    Joe Kenton

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    Fax: (718) 383-9076

    Email: jkenton@council.nyc.gov

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    Default FDNY age extension for 6019 candidates

    earlier today I received a phone call from councilman Mark Weprin's office from district 23 in Queens. Mark Weprin supports the age extension for the FDNY. He will also be responding to my letter in writing as well as his own constituents who wrote to him about the age extension.

    We must get a majority of the council members to support the age extention legislation to raise the hiring max age for the next FDNY exam. If you have not yet done so please send a letter with the attached age extension legislation to your councilmans office. We can send you a prepared letter along with a copy of the age extension by emailing 6019AgeExtension@gmail.com or email me at QCFrankC@aol.com.

    The absolute best way to contact your councilman is by simply going to their office with the letter. You do not need an appointment. Just walk in and bring the letter with the attached age extension and ask for a few minutes to speak with them. You can do this with your own council members or any other. Notify 6019AgeExtension@gmail.com with any responses you get from NYC council members

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    I took the walk-in NYPD test and scored a 97.xxx, but have yet to receive my list number. Hopefully in the low hundreds. I feel like it was so easy. Way too easy. If the next FDNY test is like that I swear, 4th graders could be next in line for the job.

    I also would just like to put this out there:

    Anybody trying to get on the job check out this site:

    http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php

    Gives up to date reports about incidents in all 5 boroughs, as well as national and international fire news, and there is a wealth of information regarding the Fire Department of New York City. A lot of old-timers post on it regarding the war years of the 60's, 70's, and 80's. So check it out, you won't be disappointed.
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    Everything is at a standstill until Judge Garaufis offers is final ruling including the damages phase, and that has not yet concluded. I assure you, the city has no intention of accepting a ruling of INTENTIONAL discrimination. They will appeal when the law permits.[/QUOTE]


    I can see the judge waiting until there is a new list in place for him to offer his final ruling just so the city won't appeal his ridiculous ruling.

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    hopefully the age extension will come through for you guys and when we take the next one they ll hire alot off it to make up for down numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigandy View Post
    I took the walk-in NYPD test and scored a 97.xxx, but have yet to receive my list number. Hopefully in the low hundreds. I feel like it was so easy. Way too easy. If the next FDNY test is like that I swear, 4th graders could be next in line for the job.
    Nice job bro. Is that including extra residency/vet points etc?

    ...Totally agree with you. The test was a joke. It's a real shame that civil service tests for PD & FD have come to this. LITERALLY a 4th grader could take this test!

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    Yeah I agree it's insane what this country is coming to.

    BTW it is w/o any extra points. So right now I'm sitting w/ a royal flush.

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    ok hold on....we got a guy on here saying that an appeal is never gonna happen, a guy saying a class is going in in march.....and it all comes from "someone high up" that they know....

    ...i dont think anyone of you knows anything!!!!!
    ...how could u both be that far off with your "sources"???

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