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    Question

    Does anyone have any idea if the ruling that the judge gave (quota hiring)

    is the final ruling. If not, one has to wonder if he is purposely dragging his feet

    on this matter. Maybe City should appeal the quota proposal that he so badly

    wants. He is after all causing some degree of financial hardship on the

    taxpayers of NYC. Any ideas?


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    Default FDNY hiring age extension

    For anyone asking about the FDNY hiring age extension: All information that is most recent is emailed out to the email list, if you want to be on it send an email to 6019AgeExtension@gmail.com and you will get all updates that way.

    We need everyone to send a letter to their respective councilman for their district to gain support to make sure it passes. Email the age extension group at 6019ageExtension@gmail.com. They have a letter prepared that we can each send to our respective councilman to garner support for the age extension. There are 51 NYC council members and so far 28 have signed on as sponsors of the bill.

    It means more when a resident of a councilman's district writes a letter. Write to either their district office or the legislative office. The best way is to personally go to their district office in your neighborhood and hand deliver the letter. You do not need to make an appointment. Just walk in and ask to speak to your councilman. If they are not there usually the chief of staff will be there to speak for them. This has worked BEST for me. I have already written to my councilman and he has signed on as a sponsor. Any responses that you receive from councilman should be posted on here and emailed to the age extension group.

    To find out who your councilman is go to
    http://council.nyc.gov/html/members/members.shtml

    Then request a copy of the already prepared letter from the age extension group and send it to your councilman.

    You can view the age extension legislation here:
    http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/Legislation.aspx
    Enter: (int 450) in the search engine and make sure to put 2010 as the year.
    Last edited by QCFRANKC; 01-31-2011 at 05:21 PM.

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    How many people did they promote from FDNY EMS to the rank of firefighter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigandy View Post
    how many people did they promote from fdny ems to the rank of firefighter?
    88

    Why?

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    when did these people get promoted from ems to FF

    When they do so do they have to pass the physical and go through the academy? I am just curious since I have heard some people complain about this process and was curious about the specifics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simpllyhuge View Post
    when did these people get promoted from ems to FF

    When they do so do they have to pass the physical and go through the academy? I am just curious since I have heard some people complain about this process and was curious about the specifics.
    They went through the exact same hiring process as the firefighters that were hired from the open competitive list. Same test, same class (class of 2008) ect.

    As of the last test and thereafter, EMS promo's could no longer fail some of the events on the physical agility. Before 2008, FDNY gave their own PAT. Starting with 6019, it's now the CPAT, which has always been pass/fail anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TL Mickey View Post
    88

    Why?
    Just curious bud.

    How bad is the stigma associated w/ going the backdoor?
    Last edited by bigandy; 02-01-2011 at 05:38 PM.

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    Just got the 6019 candidate update...Thanks again to all who are involved. You guys/girls really keep me reaching for my dream. Thanks you soo much.. My only worry about this new time line is the age extension. Will the city council vote and approve the age extension before the filing of the new test? This has to be a REAL concern with all of us who are above age. Do we have any info or timelines about the voting of the bill?Because of this, I am extremely excited and extremely nervous about this news.

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    I thought he meant this ems promo happned recently. Thats why I asked.

    Did you people on the email list get an update email today?

    If they are going to extend the age, it would be extremely backwards and sort of defeating the main point if they did so after the test.
    Last edited by simpllyhuge; 02-01-2011 at 03:25 AM.

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    Angry

    Could someone please explain what all that BS was from the special master.

    What really needs to happen in for the City to appeal all this BS and start

    hiring in rank order off List 6019. Too many guys spent a lot of time and

    money (Lasik Procedure) to be fully qualified to be on List 6019.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTown View Post
    Could someone please explain what all that BS was from the special master.

    What really needs to happen in for the City to appeal all this BS and start

    hiring in rank order off List 6019. Too many guys spent a lot of time and

    money (Lasik Procedure) to be fully qualified to be on List 6019.
    Are you on the list?

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    I know we've discussed this before, but for the life of me, I cannot understand how the City has not taken SOME action to force a "final ruling" by judge garaufis on this case so that they can then appeal. From all I can gather, THAT is why the city has not appealed YET.

    There is no way that the judge has all eternity to sit on this case and NEVER issue a final ruling. There MUST be a time limit, statute of limitations, SOMETHING that compels him to move.

    Any legal minds have any insight into this? I can't wrap my mind around it. I will call my contact in the fdny later today to ask for the billionth time, but so far, no information on that topic is available.

    Good luck all 6019 brothers!

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    Unhappy

    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty11 View Post
    Are you on the list?
    No I'm not on the List but a real close family member is. Former employee of

    another large east coast city dept. Went through the same BS where I live

    quotas were in use for many years, and as I've said before on this blog it

    ruined the job. Now we have all black houses and all white houses. You must

    remember that Bloomy is no friend of the FF and now it appears that his coat

    holders are drifting farther away from the men they once worked with.

    Stay Strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTown View Post
    it appears that his coat

    holders are drifting farther away from the men they once worked with.

    Stay Strong.
    Sal should have left with dignity. He'd held every rank short of commissioner and couldn't resist taking it. Remember, he is RETIRED from the FDNY. The position of commish is civilian and nothing more than a lackey to the mayor. To keep the job, it's "do as the major says", even if it's not for the good of the brothers. He couldn't be on your side even if he wanted to.

    Sal is not your friend. He should have retired with the respect he once had from the job. It's a shame.

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    well apparently(not sure) the judge wouldn't have jurisdiction over a new test, so although its not a popular thing to say on this forum, the city might be using a new test as their main plan. Or at least thats the impression I got from posters who have answered this question in the past.
    Last edited by simpllyhuge; 02-01-2011 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpllyhuge View Post
    well apparently(not sure) the judge wouldn't have jurisdiction over a new test, so although its not a popular thing to say on this forum, the city might be using a new test as their main plan. Or at least thats the impression I got from posters who have answered this question in the past.
    the judge didn't have jurisdiction over the 6019 test either because it wasn't part of the the original lawsuit. he decided that he was going to screw the city because they were dragging there feet on acting on his original ruling of the 1999 and 2002 test. on another note, does anyone remember how the heart rate number was calculated for the medical?

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    Oh okay well it's clear I don't know shut lol. So if they give a new test can he chime in again?

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    with this judge you never know what can happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7andchange View Post
    the judge didn't have jurisdiction over the 6019 test either because it wasn't part of the the original lawsuit. he decided that he was going to screw the city because they were dragging there feet on acting on his original ruling of the 1999 and 2002 test. on another note, does anyone remember how the heart rate number was calculated for the medical?
    (220-your age)x0.85=your maximum heart rate for the stepmill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7andchange View Post
    with this judge you never know what can happen.
    well legally can he? if he doesn't have the legal right he can say what ever he wants but the city obviously doesn't have to listen.
    Last edited by simpllyhuge; 02-01-2011 at 04:56 PM.

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