Just a reminder, today the city council began budget negotiations with the mayor. It is imperative that we all send letters to the council denouncing closings on a daily basis until the matter has been resolved. This will play a huge roll in the future of 6019. If the closures fall through there will be immense pressure to hire and our story will be making headlines once again. Hopefully bringing about some sort of resolution. Send those letters and make some phone calls.
The new court document that came out today still indicated December for testing. But, it could very well be delayed until June or longer.
Also, after reading the latest court document, it seems that 6019 is going to be stuck in court for quite some time. I'd love to see the city and 6019 come out on top, in say a year, but I just don't see that happening that quickly. Although it's not entirely the same, New Haven's case took five years.
Overall, I don't think the debate was just about whether City residents should get preference over those who are not. For me, it's been about how to determine who is a city resident. Using the HS diploma as the gold standard is questionable at best. No one here was able to chose where they were born, where they grew up or where they went to high school. Their parents made that decision. Some people who grew up in the City have indicated their parents sent them to private school outside of the City. What about a person who's father was on the job, but chose to move his family out to Long Island or Upstate, went to school there, then moved back here when he or she could make that decision? What about someone like me who grew up in the Adirondack region, where there are few or no paid fire departments? Should those people be punished for that? Should I? That's the issue.
Now, a lot of places do give preference to their residents. Albany, Rochester, Syracuse, Boston, Worcester are examples (Buffalo, you can't even take the exam, unless you're a resident). That in itself, is reasonable. However, there are other ways, outside of a high school diploma. The resolution that the council passed listed several other forms of proof, that can be used to determine the validity of a person's residency. Those documents are much more difficulty to fake, especially for a 12 month period preceding the exam. The one factor that should also be added: a visit to the claimed residence. Other departments do this. Investigators visit you and even may talk to neighbors. It's pretty effective. These factors are used effectively in other Cities. It would work just as well here to eliminate cheating.
The residency credit gives 5 points to residents. So hypothetically, even if you, a non-resident, score a 95 and I, a resident, score a 93, I get the higher list number even though you're smarter.
In this country, a degree from an acredited university is the highest form of recognized intelligence. Most students attend university in their state as in-state residents. http://www.insidecollege.com/reno/Pe...es/360/list.do Massachessets' Harvard was ranked the top university in the country. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...l-universities New York doesnt produce a ranking university above top twenty. So, barring any conspiracy theories about the rankings, Harvard is better than the universities in New York. Now remembering that the universities rarely possess out-of-state residents and a university level degree is the greatest measurement of intelligence, you are advocating not hiring the most intelligent people for the job by saying there should be a New York residency credit. Living somewhere makes you no more apt for the job than not-living somewhere so why give preference to either one.
Taking jobs from locals is nothing new. It's done in my town and I wont be the homeless person to break the cycle; to let everyone have a job but me. There are no jobs in my town so I will take my diploma and come compete with you for yours. Encouraging otherwise is speaking like someone with a job.
Besides, many like me are planning to move to the city to take advantage of the credit anyway. So, if I move to town a day before the test, how does that make me any more apt for the job than a 28-year resident?
This recidency stuff shouldn't even be a debate. The city WILL award residency points somehow and non-residents should be happy you even stand a chance of getting hired. Many non-residents with no bonus points still have been hired.
Any non-resident of Boston thats taken the Boston FD exam knows what I'm talking about.
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They are expensive as hell, but under armour underwear was my savior in the academy (and I was lucky enough to go in the winter).
My friend told me the other day that the name for your inner thighs rubbing together is CHUB RUB, lol.
Anyone out there have a chance to get a look at the most recent court BS.
What a disgrace to all the qualified candidates off #6019. Support rank order
hiring off #6019.
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