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    Quote Originally Posted by GIMMEFIRE600 View Post
    This recidency stuff shouldn't even be a debate. The city WILL award residency points somehow and non-residents should be happy you even stand a chance of getting hired. Many non-residents with no bonus points still have been hired.

    Any non-resident of Boston thats taken the Boston FD exam knows what I'm talking about.
    Yea thats true. I was just taken back by his statement. I live in a resort town full of out-of-towners and even foreigners who swoop in every summer and take jobs. I welcome them. They bring a different perspective from their corner of the world/USA


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    Quote Originally Posted by BTown View Post
    Anyone out there have a chance to get a look at the most recent court BS.

    What a disgrace to all the qualified candidates off #6019. Support rank order

    hiring off #6019.

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    Fresh Balls for your chub rub...hilarious....


    on a more serious note...

    Gov bares retirement plan to save city $30B


    ALBANY -- Gov. Cuomo yesterday introduced a long-awaited plan to control New York City's runaway pension costs -- by raising the retirement age for most municipal workers to 65 while requiring them to contribute more of their wages toward their pensions.

    Overall, said Cuomo, the measure creating a new "Tier VI" pension system would save the city more than $30 billion over the next three decades. The savings for the state and local governments outside the five boroughs would be $93 million over the same period.

    "The numbers speak for themselves -- the pension system as we know it is unsustainable," said Cuomo, as he called for a new system for all future city and state employees.

    A previously disclosed version of the plan covered only state and non-city public employees including suburban and upstate school districts. But the bill introduced yesterday added the city's workforce -- a move welcomed by Mayor Bloomberg.

    Spokesmen for legislative leaders reacted coolly, and public-employee unions bitterly attacked the plan.

    The legislation requires 12 years of service for vesting in the pension system, instead of the usual 10, and excludes the use of overtime for "pension spiking" when calculating final benefits.

    Career police and firefighters would still be able to retire at any age after 20 years on the job under the plan.

    Cuomo's proposal also excludes wages above the governor's $179,000-a- year salary from final average salary calculations, bans the use of lump-sum payments for unused vacation leave in final calculations and prohibits the use of unused sick leave for additional retirement credits.

    Bloomberg said he's been working for six months with city and state officials and labor-union representatives on "how to protect city services and the strength of our retirement funds over the long term.

    "The governor's bill will do just that -- by making sensible pension reforms that won't impact a single current employee or existing retiree," Bloomberg said.

    Cuomo said the measure "institutes common-sense reforms to bring government benefits more in line with the private sector."

    New York City pension costs have gone through the roof in recent years, rising from $1.1 billion in 2001 to $8.4 billion this year. During the same time the cost of pensions for state and non-city public employees leaped from $368 million to $6.6 billion.

    While a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Dean Skelos (R-Nassau) conceded that rising pensions costs "need to be addressed," he would only say, "We're reviewing the governor's bill."

    A spokesman for Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver (D-Manhattan) had no immediate reaction.

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    so other than rumors the last official thing we heard was that the filing period is anticipated to be in july rite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myles8683 View Post
    so other than rumors the last official thing we heard was that the filing period is anticipated to be in july rite?
    Yea, everything from the city, the city's law office, and quotes from newspaper articles have mentioned a July filing period. But there have been rumors about that possibly being pushed back. It's probably not safe to assume anything until you're actually mailing in that application.


    http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/html/em...schedule.shtml
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    This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach... it makes you wonder what kind of world we r all living in that this nonsense has actually been allowed to get this far n put so many of our lives on hold..... Career wise that is... I was brought up by my parents teaching me that if you work hard and do what's right in life you will be rewarded.. I really wish that was true

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    Just got a phone call asking me if I was still interested in testing for the New York City Fire Dept and asking me to confirm my contact info. Guy also said they were planning for filing period July with a test in December. I'll be surprised if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bk carp View Post
    This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach... it makes you wonder what kind of world we r all living in that this nonsense has actually been allowed to get this far n put so many of our lives on hold..... Career wise that is... I was brought up by my parents teaching me that if you work hard and do what's right in life you will be rewarded.. I really wish that was true
    That no longer applies in the 21st century apparently.

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    Default Stop the Dept of Social Justice. NOBAMA

    All t he candidates who scored high enough on #6019 and should have been

    OTJ, but,because of BS like money problems and the foolish lawsuit we all

    what happened. Passing meds 2 or 3X and lets not forget about the stairs.


    What we need is for the appeal process to move fwd and challenge

    the court's ruling on 6019 and resume rank order hiring off the LIST.

    Talking about residency rules if you want to become a firefighter

    in the City of Boston you must have lived in the City for the previous year to

    be able to obtain the additional pts. Boston only hires maybe 80 to 90 FF

    a year at the most. Unless your a vet you can forget about being hired.

    Stay safe.

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    Do you think this time around it's going to be possible to get on the job without points? If 6019 hiring doesn't happen and there's a new test, it's going to be even more competitive than in the past. Essentially the applicant pool will be doubled, plus there will be more qualified for vet points since we've now been fighting 2 wars for about 10 years. To top it off there are EMS promotions and Bloomberg's obsession with cutting the size of the department. I have a feeling no one without residency, legacy, or vet points is getting hired, even with a perfect score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takethedoor174 View Post
    ...Why should someone from out of town come and take jobs away from those that live here? And don't give me the "We want the most qualified candidates no matter where they are from crap." Spoken like a a true out of towner...
    As a former out of towner, heres my reason: Some of your life-long yokels are fu(king retards.

    Maybe in the land of short buildings and tall tales its not a big deal to leash up your precious neighbor and bring him to the "fire" floor for that rubbish in the hall, but I suspect youd sing a very different song regarding qualified candidates the moment the shlt truly hits the fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkylinePCG View Post
    As a former out of towner, heres my reason: Some of your life-long yokels are fu(king retards.

    Maybe in the land of short buildings and tall tales its not a big deal to leash up your precious neighbor and bring him to the "fire" floor for that rubbish in the hall, but I suspect youd sing a very different song regarding qualified candidates the moment the shlt truly hits the fan.
    I wonder if the 2 people this years Gordon Bennett medal winner saved cared that he lived on SI and not brooklyn. Maybe he would have saved them faster if he considered them his people, protecting his borough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyckftbl View Post
    I wonder if the 2 people this years Gordon Bennett medal winner saved cared that he lived on SI and not brooklyn. Maybe he would have saved them faster if he considered them his people, protecting his borough.
    Im surprised I havent heard the enviro-nuts howl about the distance between his home and his firehouse, because he needs a flatbed tow truck as a commuter car, bringing balls like that to work
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    I was curious if any one knew who the woman speaking was in the Vulcan video, as in her position.
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    Guys, hang in there. I know you are angry and frustrated. I am sorry to say you are dealing with the city. It's something that is so much bigger than any one person or even one department for that matter. These are the cards you have been dealt. Support each other and use this forum to share useful information, not argue over things you have no control over. Stay in shape, stay out of trouble and hopefully one day you will get on the job. Until then, have a solid plan B. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPNYC View Post
    Do you think this time around it's going to be possible to get on the job without points? If 6019 hiring doesn't happen and there's a new test, it's going to be even more competitive than in the past. Essentially the applicant pool will be doubled, plus there will be more qualified for vet points since we've now been fighting 2 wars for about 10 years. To top it off there are EMS promotions and Bloomberg's obsession with cutting the size of the department. I have a feeling no one without residency, legacy, or vet points is getting hired, even with a perfect score.
    it will definetly be possible as long as the test is accepted, i would imagine the first few classes would be legacy,vet and rsident, and some people who fall into all three of those categoies. there gonna be pretty well understaffed if they wait to hire off the new test, as long as the new test passes muster with everyone.

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    How many people can they put through a class at one time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBorn View Post
    How many people can they put through a class at one time?
    i thimk a class of 2(from the military list ) graduated last before them 300 so pretty much anyones guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotherightthing View Post
    Guys, hang in there. I know you are angry and frustrated. I am sorry to say you are dealing with the city.
    actually their dealing w/ the vulcan society. The city is actually doing the right thing here and fighting a bull**** discrimination suit w/ no basis. FDNY is the only dept. in the world that people from all over the country and parts of world want to join. Nobody from north carolina wants to be a nyc correction officer. Why not base their assumptions on the race of the whole planet!

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