Fdny List 6019

[MerritMatters]

Where did this information come from about the prep class with the Vulcan Society? I haven't seen it in an email...

[Geschaefer]

It was forwarded to my by the head of "MerritMatters".

[vekdoggs75]

It was forwarded to my by the head of "MerritMatters".

Yeah I saw it last night too - Anybody planning on going to 1 of these?

[fdny101ABN]

the one at Taino towers in harlem, wow, i was there in 1996 and it was not a very nice place. I hope they've cleaned it up a bit. I will go for the prep classes. I don't think it matters if you're black or white right?

[River6019]

the one at Taino towers in harlem, wow, i was there in 1996 and it was not a very nice place. I hope they've cleaned it up a bit. I will go for the prep classes. I don't think it matters if you're black or white right?

Hey, I'll be at the taino towers session Tuesday for sure. Black, white, green, or polkadot, I doubt very much that they wont be letting people in based on race. They only thing I can think of is that it will get too crowded if you show up late and there wont be space to get in. So I'll be there early.

[myles8683]

anybody going to the vulcan prep session tomorrow in queens?

[MerritMatters]

anybody going to the vulcan prep session tomorrow in queens?

Anyone going on saturday to the Staten Island and wants to meet up PM me...

[MerritMatters]

Anyone going on saturday to the Staten Island and wants to meet up PM me...

NM, just heard that the Staten Island got cancelled

[LongCut]

NM, just heard that the Staten Island got cancelled

the saturday staten island class was cancelled?

[MerritMatters]

the saturday staten island class was cancelled?

yea, someone posted the article in the 2000 thread, post 909 if you want to check. I'm going to try and double check myself but if you hear anything, dont hesitate to let us know

[FDLAX17]

Breaking News: 200-300 White kids turned away today at 7pm at Queens high school by the Vulcan Society! The Vulcans running the prep class told the white kids, "If you are not on a previous vulcan list, you can not come in."..... What is going on?!? Is this really happening? I'm going tomorrow at 7pm in Queens, I guess we'll see what happens. i signed up online last week, theres no reason i should be denied this class

[fdnysmoky]

Breaking News: 200-300 White kids turned away today at 7pm at Queens high school by the Vulcan Society! The Vulcans running the prep class told the white kids, "If you are not on a previous vulcan list, you can not come in."..... What is going on?!? Is this really happening? I'm going tomorrow at 7pm in Queens, I guess we'll see what happens. i signed up online last week, theres no reason i should be denied this class

I was there and yes we (all the white people) were all denied access to the test session. They literally segregated us when we got there. I showed up a full hour early and they had all the white people packed together while they lined up all the african americans and allowed them in. We showed Lt. Andrew Brown proof with printouts of our registration we did online and we were still denied access. All the firefighters there were in full uniform at the time and were blantantly discriminating against us. To all the people here who said IT WONT HAPPEN , IT CANT HAPPEN. GUESS WHAT, IT IS HAPPENING. They called the police on us because we refused to leave, and police had to escort us out the building. The press showed up, I believe the post and ny1. A big F U to the vulcan society and gaurafis.

[johhnyboy]

Wow.....Sh*t is about to get real

[VinnieB]

If its true then you have every right to contact EEO and file a complaint with the FDNY EEO @ 718-999-1446,1447,1448 and the NYS Div of human rights. All fraternal organization and their functions are extensions of the work place.

[QCFRANKC]

Channel 2 news at 5pm will do an interview with Paul Mannix and some of the candidates for exam 2000 that were turned away by the Vulcans for their prep classes. Interview is by Lou Young.

[LongCut]

Cant find the 6019 answer key anywhere. There is no trace of it in the archives of nyc.gov. Very weird because you can find the exam key for 2043. I was interested in reviewing it but I cant find it anywhere. Does anybody have it saved on there computer?

[LongCut]

Judge Garaufis advised that his nephew had
taken FDNY exam #6019. While on that day exam #6019 was not part of
the lawsuit, shortly thereafter, it became apparent that it would play a
significant role in this litigation. Upon information and belief, based upon a
review of the score attained by the judge's nephew, his hiring from that list
was unlikely. Thus, the nephew is a direct beneficiary of the judicial
decision to preclude the use of hiring in rank order from exam #6019 to fill
vacancies, as such an effectual discarding of that tests list means another bite
at the apple, with the opportunity of scoring higher on a future exam.

sorry just felt like putting this fact out there again.

[vekdoggs75]

[QUOTE=LongCut;1320465]Judge Garaufis advised that his nephew had
taken FDNY exam #6019. While on that day exam #6019 was not part of
the lawsuit, shortly thereafter, it became apparent that it would play a
significant role in this litigation. Upon information and belief, based upon a
review of the score attained by the judge's nephew, his hiring from that list
was unlikely. Thus, the nephew is a direct beneficiary of the judicial
decision to preclude the use of hiring in rank order from exam #6019 to fill
vacancies, as such an effectual discarding of that tests list means another bite
at the apple, with the opportunity of scoring higher on a future exam.

sorry just felt like putting this fact out there again.[/QUOTE

Dude I appreciate you posting this...I just wish this was info that was used in the actual case or at least mentioned in a news story other than an editorial. He should have never been able to touch our list in any capacity.

[GIMMEFIRE600]

[QUOTE=vekdoggs75;1320514]

Judge Garaufis advised that his nephew had
taken FDNY exam #6019. While on that day exam #6019 was not part of
the lawsuit, shortly thereafter, it became apparent that it would play a
significant role in this litigation. Upon information and belief, based upon a
review of the score attained by the judge's nephew, his hiring from that list
was unlikely. Thus, the nephew is a direct beneficiary of the judicial
decision to preclude the use of hiring in rank order from exam #6019 to fill
vacancies, as such an effectual discarding of that tests list means another bite
at the apple, with the opportunity of scoring higher on a future exam.

sorry just felt like putting this fact out there again.[/QUOTE

Dude I appreciate you posting this...I just wish this was info that was used in the actual case or at least mentioned in a news story other than an editorial. He should have never been able to touch our list in any capacity.

FYI, the Merit Matters Amicus Brief, in support of the city's appeal, makes mention of it. As a matter of fact that paragraph might actually be from the brief.

[vekdoggs75]

[QUOTE=GIMMEFIRE600;1320541]

FYI, the Merit Matters Amicus Brief, in support of the city's appeal, makes mention of it. As a matter of fact that paragraph might actually be from the brief.

You're right..My bad. I was actually referring to news articles and arguments in the original lawsuit. As much animosity I have towards Garaufis, Washington is slowly creeping into the lead with his actions and words in the last few days.