I had a question about the medical part of the hiring process before the academy. If you have asthma, does that DQ you from the hiring process? Are you unable to be hired by the FDNY if you have had asthma previously in your life? thanks for the reply.
Irish6019 first you need to allow PM's on your account. I would PM you but cant.
Originally Posted by Irish6019
I will post here what I got from FDNY when I called after I say what I am brining.
I have lived in NYC since the winter of 06. I have electric, cable, and cell phone bills from March 07-Today. I have my car insurance card, car registration, drivers license and I have my lease agreement for 06-07 and 07-08.
I called Investigations to find out if that was enough and she said bring that and if we (FDNY) need anything else we will let you know and you can get it later.
I asked too and she made it sound like bank statements were a very acceptable one. I moved here in Jan 07, but I moved into an already established apartment. All the bills and the lease are in his name and had been for around a year. So, I didn't change anything over, but I can get sworn affidavits from my landlord and roommate, as well as show that checks were written to most months (almost every one; paid cash for a few months).
I'm really hoping I don't have problems, I really have lived here and am not trying to pull a fast one, but I just don't have the "usual" documentation.
I'm taking bank, cc, and cell phone statements, as well as anything else I can find. Receipt for furniture delivered to my address, neighborhood gym membership, insurance for my moto, etc.
Anyone have their meetings yet? Just curious to hear how straight and narrow they are on a lot of the stuff. When I talked to the lady about not remembering the plate numbers about every car, she said just describe them as best as I can. I'm just wondering if maybe they aren't as hardcore about every little detail, as long as the major stuff (arrests, driving records, etc.) is okay.
Yeah, I'll give em a call and see what they say about what I have. At the moment it's the only thing I foresee running into a bump with. Although I think I have enough stuff.
talk to your landlord and just add your name to the lease... or if you're living with a friend, have them type up a lease-looking agreement for you. Otherwise, utility bills, bank accounts, cell phone bills, insurance bills, and credit card bills are good enough. And you don't have to show this stuff til swearing-in day if you don't live there already, they will send you a letter telling you to bring your proof of residence to swearing in...
Other thing is, I can move out in March right?
Not to knock your advice, because I had briefly considered doing that, but it seems a bit on the dishonest side, IMHO, because it's getting into "forging" legal documents.
Since I really have been living here, it's not like I'm trying to pull a fast one. But, I can't see writing up another "fake" lease when I could do a sworn affidavit from my landlord and/or roommate that wouldn't involve messing with a legal document.
They'll require it before swearing in because the residency points are factored into my position on the list. If I lost the points, I could probably kiss the jobbie job goodbye; if not for at least another 3 years.
Anyway, I remember the NoE said that they wanted a lease AND bank statements/cc bills/etc. to prove residency. But, on the back of the letter in the background packet that states what I need to bring for residency proof, it has A) Acceptable proof of Residence are: Bank Statements, CC, Utilities, and/or Health/Auto Insurance. and B) 5 Point Credit - Proof of NYC Residence.
I don't know if B means that I need a lease/affidavit or not. When I talked to the lady, she made it seem like I'd be okay if just had 12 months of bank statements and another backing proof like CC bills, cell phone, etc.
Of course, she seemed as though she'd been over the information a million times and wasn't very receptive to my questions, as she answered before I finished them (erroneously a couple times) and she just didn't seem very happy.
I'm just hoping I don't get there and get nailed. I probably should call again and ask, but I'm pretty sure that the number I have is just to my investigator, as each time I called it went to the same voicemail.
Either way, I'm just hoping that, since it's so early, that I'll have time to get anything else they might require and they won't immediately bump me from the list.
Talked to a recruiting guy the other day and he seemed to think that Bank statements were all that you needed....
Well, that's backup to what I gather from the back of our requirements letter and through my experience talking to the investigator that I did. Hopefully it is the case. If not, I just hope they give me/us a chance to get whatever else they require.
I used a bank statement and a cable bill today. That made him happy.
Let us know what it was like.
It was like 40-50 people in the auditorium/5 individuals at tables collecting your info, one at a time.
Every 10-15 people, they take as a group upstairs to get fingerprinted. Then when thats done, you get to go home.
Issues that came up:
-Dont sign the back of the money order. In fact, dont even write on it until they tell you what to write.
-Everyone (almost) wore a suit.
-Dont forget anything. But if you do, theres a copy machine and a Notary Public present. Not too much ball breaking for utilizing either, at this point.
-Yes, they really do want to see 'originals.'
-Have breakfast; I was there six hours. No lunch breaks.
-Factor in a few extra minutes in case the guy running your train happens to be the same trapped-in-slow-motion gent operating 4-line today, so you dont have to needlessly, and silently, flip out in your own head like I did this morning.
-The worst part of the day is the time it takes, and thats just a necessary evil.
Really not a stressful event guys, so dont lose sleep over it. You get like a month to put it together and theres no surprises.
Sounds much easier than I had been thinking it might be. I'm looking forward to it a lot, as it's one of what 4 major things we have left to do. (this, med, pysch, cpat)
What did you need originals of besides the lease?
Thanks skyline for the heads up
Anyone know what the order will be ?(cpat, med, pysch, etc?)
Based on the fact that the cpat is tentative for april, I'd say there is a decent chance that some guys will be going in before that for med/pysch.
Just got back from the investigation a little while ago.
A few things to know.
- Have proof of residence for all 12 months. Whatever bills/statements you use, they want one for each month from March 07. Obviously you wont have Feb & March 08, so they give you an envelope to mail it in when you get it.
- Have copies of all W2's from 2003 - 2007
- They also wanted a Social Security Detailed Earnings statement. Said you can get this at any SS office.
If you are missing something, they give you a checklist of what you need and envelopes to mail it in. Its alot easier if you have everything you need and all the copies made prior to getting there. Makes the process go much smoother and quicker. Also, put the all of your info in the order that is on the sheet that came with the packet. Thats pretty much the order they ask for it in.
Get there early. They go in order of where you are sitting, not by list number or alpha. Whole process, with fingerprinting, took about 4 hours and I was probably about the 25th person to go. Eat a big breakfast.
Good Luck and Go BIG BLUE!!!!!!!!
Remember, it's tax season so a w-2 form from your job with your city address is also probably acceptable to prove residency. I've got CC statements, bank statements, car insurance, my w-2 forms, and more going to my city address. I don't have any utilities that are in my name so i will just have my cousin/landlord sign a sworn affidavit and that should be that. How strict are they on the dates of the residency papers being exactly march 07 to march 08?
Heads up to everyone on the medical: It's going to be harder that the CPAT...
Originally Posted by Irish6019
3:20 on the stepmill with no weight followed by 1 min recovery then 5:00 on the stepmill with 50lb vest. I did it at the gym yesterday and it is very very hard to keep your HR down after the 4min mark on the second stint. I was doing 4min every other day with 84lb on and my HR rarely goes over 145-150 (age 29). I found out really quick that that is not adequate prep for the medical my HR at the end of the 5 min was way too high.
An original of the lease wasnt req'd. Just the two pieces of "proof." The originals they want are on the letter you get. I dont have it in front of me at the moment, but I recall it being the birth certificate, HS diploma and drivers license. The guy looked at mine, and scribbled an 'OK' on the copies. He did collect a pair of DMV abstracts too...
Originally Posted by formerbuckeye
Just dont bring a lot of extra 'just in case' stuff. If they never asked for something, your cluttering your own process. Its a good day to be organized.
And youre welcome guys, glad I could help.
Quick question about the residency proof:
I was told that bills printed from an online account with you address will not suffice. The bills need to be mailed to your address.
Can anyone confirm this?
I think everything I do is online - not sure if anyone else is in the same boat.
Thanks in advance
I'm in that boat, too. I do everything online and have for years. However, I have a few months of mailed ones that are exactly the same (well, except the WaMu logo is in color) as the PDFs I printed out from the internet, so I don't know what the difference is unless they want them unopened in the envelopes that they came in.
I can order mailed paper statements, but they're $5 a statement for each month. I'll spend the $60 in a heartbeat for the job, but it doesn't make sense if I can print the exact same thing off the computer.
I brought in printed cc statements from online and they took that as proof of residency. Didnt question it at all.
Originally Posted by SeminoleB
My post took a few days to get posted up so I am posting the question again to hope to get a answer. Sorry about reposting. I was reading and saw that as a step to getting hired we have to take a polygraph.(I don't know if this is out of NY or what but I read it somewhere on this site) but if it is I was wondering if anyone knew all the steps we have to take before getting hired and if in fact taking a polygraph was one or not because I thought it was just the hand in the paper work day, the psych, the cpat, and the medical.