Fdny List 6019

[fdnyjan09]

Any other med dates yet? Haven't heard anyone over 1300's saying they have a date, I'm sitting 1700's and waiting for med and physc.

[My1Goal]

Any other med dates yet? Haven't heard anyone over 1300's saying they have a date, I'm sitting 1700's and waiting for med and physc.

Hey Jan09, mine's next Friday, 8/29.

[exam6019]

Wonder how many of those trying to go to fire will turn it down to go over to PD instead besides myself. 44k to start , 76k base after 5 yrs , 92k!! with all additional pay as of last night. FDNY can't touch that

[CalmB4Storm]

Wonder how many of those trying to go to fire will turn it down to go over to PD instead besides myself. 44k to start , 76k base after 5 yrs , 92k!! with all additional pay as of last night. FDNY can't touch that

There is a parity relationship with FDNY and NYPD. Be assured, the pay is going to be the same. It has been for over 100 years.

[Cuzzz2259]

FDNY has and always will be the better job. You never hear about guys crossing over from FD to PD, it is always the other way around. When we took this test, most of us knew we would never be rich and probably have to work a second job. It is still miles ahead of the PD job. Also, as Calm stated the two jobs have a history of parity with contracts. It is just a matter of time before FD adopts something similar.

Just to piggy back on what Calm and Hopefully09 said, there is a history of pay parity between both (NYPD & FDNY) agencies. People also have to look at the current FDNY contract, which expired 8/01/08. The NYPD does have a better pay now as a result of the new contract, but that contact goes from 2006 to 2010.

This means that when new contract negotiations go into effect for the FDNY to cover the 2008 to 2010 period, we will be at THE SAME or a HIGHER pay level compared to NYPD.

[fdny2b]

Wonder how many of those trying to go to fire will turn it down to go over to PD instead besides myself. 44k to start , 76k base after 5 yrs , 92k!! with all additional pay as of last night. FDNY can't touch that

There is an automatic re-opener clause that was exercised in the FDNY contract as soon as the NYPD signed their contract. FDNY will do better than the PD as has always happened.

That said, if the dollars and cents are what matter to you most, go to the PD. There is more to being a a member of the greatest fire department on the face of the planet than the numbers on the paycheck.

[CalmB4Storm]

There is an [automatic] re-opener clause that was exercised in the FDNY contract as soon as the NYPD signed their contract. FDNY will do [better] than the PD as has always happened.

It's not automatic and it's the same, not better.

[FDNYUSMC]

Wonder how many of those trying to go to fire will turn it down to go over to PD instead besides myself. 44k to start , 76k base after 5 yrs , 92k!! with all additional pay as of last night. FDNY can't touch that

There is going to be a few that do that, But the joke is on them. When FD goes in for a new contract, they will get something very simialar. It's called parttern bargaining.

[exam6019]

I'm going to try to go to PD now at least to get my 20 and out time started." If" I get called for fire I will definitely lateral over. That's what I meant in my quote eariler. Sorry, that quote didn't come out right. I unlike a lot of you , am sitting in 39xx. Most of you are going in the academy in a year or so,and have no worries, and with all this talk I'm hearing from a lot of members on smaller academy clases to come , I'm not certain if my list # will be reached anymore and I will be to old to take the next fire exam. So I need to start a career in something.

[mike13310]

I think you guys are crazy if you dont think this list will reach atleast 5000...the fdny spent way too much time and money on their recruitment push..besides they have way too many critics right now can you imagine they dont hire as many ff's as they have on other lists with all the minorities that took and passed this test..than again just my opinion

[exam6019]

[QUOTE=mike13310;981243]I think you guys are crazy if you dont think this list will reach atleast 5000...the fdny spent way too much time and money on their recruitment push..besides they have way too many critics right now can you imagine they dont hire as many ff's as they have on other lists with all the minorities that took and passed this test..than again just my opinion. ]

I agree with you 100% however the FDNY is really overstaffed so why would they hire as many firefighters as in the past. Clam is definitely right when he said there probably won't be 300 classes in the future. Attriton rate for 08 has been extremely minimal. I feel after jan class that the 6 future classes will be 200. I hope though I'm wrong

[mike13310]

i know what your saying but i just dont think we'll see the smaller class size i think its the future lists that will be in trouble with majority of fdny under 10yrs...guess well have to wait and see

[SurferP]

My source, 25 years on the job, Battalion Chief, recently retired with GREAT connects in the department says that every test people always say that the FDNY isn't going to hire or that they're going to have a hiring freeze. it's all just speculation. People leave the FD all the time for various reasons, many with under 20 years. Relocation, more money in their side jobs, family emergencies, etc. He says classes will be about 300 strong twice a year for the duration of this list. The real question is how many people will they have to go through to get those 300 every class. I hope it's a lot. I'm sitting 6800's.

[BowHunter82]

ANyone else heading down to MetroTech on Tues for the interview????

Also I have never been to Metrotech...Does anyone know what subways go there from Grand Central??? Thanks Boyzzz

[My1Goal]

ANyone else heading down to MetroTech on Tues for the interview????

Also I have never been to Metrotech...Does anyone know what subways go there from Grand Central??? Thanks Boyzzz

Hey, Bow. Take the F train to Jay St. The building is like a 2-3 minute walk from the station and there are a lot of FDNY guys in the area, so just ask around and they'll direct you to the spot.

[Cuzzz2259]

To Bowhunter and the rest of you going in for the "interview,"

I have a list of MAKE SURE's for you. Hope it helps. Here it goes:

1. Make sure you bring the letter you received in the mail, which states the time and date of your interview.
2. Make sure you SHAVE.
3. Make sure your questionaire is notarized.
4. Make sure you have copies of EVERYTHING you turn in.
5. Make sure you get there early.
6. Make sure you go in the auditorium and sit on the left hand side, by the windows. They start calling from that side first.
7. Make sure you keep the noise to a minimum. Don't be that guy that's loud and obnoxious.

**Good luck all and keep us posted.

[johhnyboy]

8. Do not chew gum inside the auditorium.

[tommy1981]

I'm going to try to go to PD now at least to get my 20 and out time started." If" I get called for fire I will definitely lateral over. That's what I meant in my quote eariler. Sorry, that quote didn't come out right. I unlike a lot of you , am sitting in 39xx. Most of you are going in the academy in a year or so,and have no worries, and with all this talk I'm hearing from a lot of members on smaller academy clases to come , I'm not certain if my list # will be reached anymore and I will be to old to take the next fire exam. So I need to start a career in something.

If you start with pd your time will count on the back end once you transfer over to FDNY. For example if you do 3 yrs pd then transfer you have to do 20 with fdny and retire with 23 yrs. Also your pay does not transfer over.

[maples]

I go in Wednesday for the "interview."

[QCFRANKC]

PD and DSNY (sanitation time) both carry over to the FDNY as allowable UP-FRONTservice. You have to do the remainder of the 20 years when transfering to FDNY. Your pay however does not transfer over and you have to begin at bottom pay no matter where you come from. I asked them about this at Metrotech and here is more proof...


http://www.ufoa.org/spec_messages/servicecredit.html