Rope

[whfdExplorer]

I just got 17 and a half feet of rope for the basic firefighter class that I am taking. What is the best way to fold/wrap/tie the rope so it will fit in one of the pockets in my turnout pants? The rope is made out of nylon and it is 5/8 inchs thick. Thanks for the help.

[t0asty]

Personally all the rope that I have used comes stuffed in a big bag that is either on the engine or truck, or on on the SCBA that I am using so I am not exactily sure what the rope is for besides practicing knots. You could wrap the rope any way you wanted either roll it up or jam it in a pocket. I Daisy-Chain any personal non bagged rope that I want to store. I guess if I wanted to carry it with me I could just grab a caribener (sp?) and hook it on something or stuff it in a pocket the best I can.

[whfdExplorer]

Personally all the rope that I have used comes stuffed in a big bag that is either on the engine or truck, or on on the SCBA that I am using so I am not exactily sure what the rope is for besides practicing knots. You could wrap the rope any way you wanted either roll it up or jam it in a pocket. I Daisy-Chain any personal non bagged rope that I want to store. I guess if I wanted to carry it with me I could just grab a caribener (sp?) and hook it on something or stuff it in a pocket the best I can.

Whats a Daisy-Chain??

[t0asty]

Sorry. Here is a video on how to do it. I bet there are other names for it.

http://www.flixya.com/video/122971/H..._a_daisy_chain

It is the same idea just with smaller rope. and all you need to start is a loop.

[giweff]

Just stuff it in you paint pocket and clip a carabineer to the end and clip it to the side of you pocket. I keep 20ft in the bottom of my right pocket and then put my fire gloves on top of them. Plenty of room for both.

[WaterbryVTfire]

Tie a figure 8 on a bight on one end. A simple over hand knot in the other. Stuff the (over hand knot) end in your pocket. And like was said, slip a 'biner into the 8 and clip it onto the pocket.

[firemonkey311]

When i went through the academy i just stuffed my rope neatly into my pants pocket.

[whfdExplorer]

Thanks for the post guys. And while we are on the subject of rope and knots, besides the figure eight on a bight, the half hitch, the clove hitch and the bowline, what other knots do I need to know? Thanks again everyone.

[BLSboy]

I just got 17 and a half feet of rope for the basic firefighter class that I am taking. What is the best way to fold/wrap/tie the rope so it will fit in one of the pockets in my turnout pants? The rope is made out of nylon and it is 5/8 inchs thick. Thanks for the help.

You do know the melting point of nylon is low, right?
it is good for utility, but I would not bring it in a live burn.

[whfdExplorer]

You do know the melting point of nylon is low, right?
it is good for utility, but I would not bring it in a live burn.

I know it does, I got it for utility work. As for live burn rope, I have about 15 feet of rope made out of cotton or some other natural fiber, but I'm pretty sure it is cotton.

[TNFF319]

For my class, we had to keep the rope with us 24/7. I just stuffed it into my pants. I had a daisy chain for a while, but it did not save that much space.

[jbrescue]

What coul you possibly be using 5/8" rope for anyhow. That is way too big for just about anything at all. And, 17 and a half feet, what sort of length is that for? What do you intend to use the rope for? There are a lot of options out there to consider.

[whfdExplorer]

What coul you possibly be using 5/8" rope for anyhow. That is way too big for just about anything at all. And, 17 and a half feet, what sort of length is that for? What do you intend to use the rope for? There are a lot of options out there to consider.

First off, the reason I got 5/8" rope was because that was the only size the store that I went to had. And second, the class instuctor told us to get a least 12 feet of rope. I didn't want to get to much because all I am using it for is for knots on tools in class. When the class is done, I am going to get at least 25 feet of utility work.

[BLSboy]

Dude, heres some advise that will free up alot of room in your pockets. The only rope you should be carrying in the real world is life safety rope.
If you need something for utility, get 15 ft of webbing. There should be utility rope on the trucks.

[jbrescue]

Good advice BLS. But, 20 feet of webbing is pretty standard, good for a harness also. Then 8mm escape rope is good. No larger than 1/2" is ever needed for anything else. If I can haul over 9000# with 1/2", why would I ever need 5/8"?

[jonnyirons2]

You do know the melting point of nylon is low, right?
it is good for utility, but I would not bring it in a live burn.

Nylon melts at about 350+ degrees. If it gets to 350 degrees on the floor, you will be dead shortly there after.

[BLSboy]

Good advice BLS. But, 20 feet of webbing is pretty standard, good for a harness also. Then 8mm escape rope is good. No larger than 1/2" is ever needed for anything else. If I can haul over 9000# with 1/2", why would I ever need 5/8"?

I am kinda partial to the Sterling FireTech 32 rope. 50 ft of it takes up only half my right pocket.

I prefer two lengths of 10 ft webbing. One is prerigged to drag something or some one, the other is just a roll, to tie off something.

[lutan1]

Thanks for the post guys. And while we are on the subject of rope and knots, besides the figure eight on a bight, the half hitch, the clove hitch and the bowline, what other knots do I need to know? Thanks again everyone.

I'dd add in the following-
Figure 8
Figure 8 follow through
Double figure 8
Alpine butterfly
Double fishermans

If you're carrying tape, then you've gotta know the Tape Knot.

What coul you possibly be using 5/8" rope for anyhow. That is way too big for just about anything at all. And, 17 and a half feet, what sort of length is that for? What do you intend to use the rope for? There are a lot of options out there to consider.

It could be used to tie the Juniors up after you've told them multiple times, "Stand there, don't move and don't touch anything!!!"

[jbrescue]

lutan you are my hero.

We are working on some testing of the bachmann knot as well. We are thinking of using it as an ascending knot and in a z drag for the mechanical advantage knot. The dragging bowline is always a good knot for the explorers to learn also. And do not forget the handcuff knot for RIT.

[lutan1]

lutan you are my hero.

We are working on some testing of the bachmann knot as well. We are thinking of using it as an ascending knot and in a z drag for the mechanical advantage knot. The dragging bowline is always a good knot for the explorers to learn also. And do not forget the handcuff knot for RIT.

You're only human JB!

In relation to the Bachmann- I didn't know that was what it was called.

If anyone is not familiar with it, go to- http://www.animatedknots.com/klemhei...s.com#Bachmann