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    That was the BEST Super Bowl ever!

    The Pats ran 42 plays the whole game. 23 of them were for zero or negative yards. The game was won on the line of scrimage.

    I'll be at the Canyon of Hero's tomorrow.

    And I hit the final in my office pool!!

    BIG BLUE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
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    Congrats to the G-Men.....one of the best SB's I have ever seen. If not the best. Despite the fact the (my?!?!) Pat's didn't win, I can give credit where credit is due. Nice job! (I still don't like Plaxico though! )

    And as was said Gisele Bundchen is a pretty damn good "second place trophy".

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    As much as I hate to say it, the Pats were outplayed, and outcoached.
    The Giants' D-line dominated so Brady wasn't able to take advantage of their weak secondary.
    The Pats Defense played okay (held the Giants to 3 for 3.5 quarters) but gave up too many 3rd down conversions.

    The entire game came down to 3 plays:
    1) Eli turning a 3rd/10 almost 8-yard sack into a 1st down
    2) Tynes(Tyre?.. something) making the helmet catch for 1st down
    3) Moss missing the 70yd bomb (tipped) with 20 seconds left.

    If you were a Giants fan, or on the fence it was a great superbowl. For Pats fans it was 60 minutes of cringing. The fact that this loss turn the entire season into a footnote is what really bugs me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    As much as I hate to say it, the Pats were outplayed, and outcoached.
    The Giants' D-line dominated so Brady wasn't able to take advantage of their weak secondary.
    The Pats Defense played okay (held the Giants to 3 for 3.5 quarters) but gave up too many 3rd down conversions.

    The entire game came down to 3 plays:
    1) Eli turning a 3rd/10 almost 8-yard sack into a 1st down
    2) Tynes(Tyre?.. something) making the helmet catch for 1st down
    3) Moss missing the 70yd bomb (tipped) with 20 seconds left.

    If you were a Giants fan, or on the fence it was a great superbowl. For Pats fans it was 60 minutes of cringing. The fact that this loss turn the entire season into a footnote is what really bugs me.
    Don't underestimate how much of a distraction the 19-0 thing had become. The way the press was talking, and many of the Patriots players (including Brady) were acting, the Super Bowl was simply a nuisance that stood between them and the inevitable immortality.

    They also underestimated the dangerous situation they were in with the Giants. They had absolutely nothing to lose. If they lost, so what? Nobody expected them to be there at all, so it was all good. Also, the Giants had started to believe that they could do anything. After almost beating the Pats in Week 17 as well as the wins in Dallas and Titletown, a victory over the Patsin the Super Bowl didn't seem so daunting.

    To truly understand what was happening, all you had to do was look at Brady's face. He had no idea what to do. They are, to be sure, a phenomenal football team. But they just ran into the wrong team at the wrong time.
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    Default Canyon of Hero's at 8:00 a.m.

    The place is going crazy already.




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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    The entire game came down to 3 plays:

    Sorry, I just can't agree with you. The game was won by the Giants defensive line. They stepped up and shut down the Pats offense. They were able to disrupt Brady, and make him extremely uncomfortable.

    The opening drive by the Giants was phenomenal, as well. Taking up 9 minutes, and converting how many 3rd downs? The Pat's were forced to play on the Giants terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Sorry, I just can't agree with you. The game was won by the Giants defensive line. They stepped up and shut down the Pats offense. They were able to disrupt Brady, and make him extremely uncomfortable.
    Note: I did give the Giants Defense credit:
    Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    As much as I hate to say it, the Pats were outplayed, and outcoached.
    The Giants' D-line dominated so Brady wasn't able to take advantage of their weak secondary.
    Despite that, the game did come down to those three plays. If the Giants hadn't been able to convert on those 3rd downs, or if Moss has caught that bomb the game could have turned out differently.

    George, I do agree with you on your point. The Pats didn't seem to learn from Week 17 (or 18, or 19..) and didn't come out prepared for the game.
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    The Roar is deafening!!!!





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    Typical Boston behavior...

    ESPN is reporting that Tom Brady and Randy Moss have opted out of the Pro Bowl. Reportedly, they have ankle injuries.

    That's odd, I didn't see them get hurt on Sunday. Sounds to me like they are simply spoiled rotten embarrassed brats.

    Ya know, I read in more than one place this past week that people were touting Brady as the Best Quarterback EVER! I just hope that his juvenile behavior and his average Super Bowl game put all this talk to rest. Is he a great QB? Absolutely. The best ever? He can only dream.

    Before you ask...Joe Montana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
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    Holy cow, we agree on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    Note: I did give the Giants Defense credit:

    I know you did; I'm just a bit biased towards defensive lines.

    I really thought that they were the key to the win. Brady was never able to get comfortable and steady while dropping back.

    Despite that, the game did come down to those three plays. If the Giants hadn't been able to convert on those 3rd downs, or if Moss has caught that bomb the game could have turned out differently.

    That's all speculation. I will argue till I'm blue in the face that an opening 9 minute drive, especially one that has as many third down conversions as they had, will completely change the tempo of a game. Essentially they were able to ice the Pats offense, and let all of that emotion and excitement wear off before they even had one snap.

    Those were 3 notable plays, but I'll still say that the entire game's tempo was changed by the Giants defensive line, and the Giants ability to convert on third down. If they let Brady get back in the pocket with time, the Giants secondary will never be able to cover Moss and Welker. Beside the point that Brady was missing wide open receivers, due to being harassed the entire game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Before you ask...Joe Montana.

    It all depends on what you put as your criteria, but I like overall winning of championships. It doesn't matter how many touchdowns, how many interceptions, etc... It's all about the winning. That's one reason why Favre will always slide down the scale a bit. Montana and Starr were both incredible in championship games.

    I'm split 50/50 between Joe Montana and Bart Starr. Both are also decent role models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    It all depends on what you put as your criteria, but I like overall winning of championships. It doesn't matter how many touchdowns, how many interceptions, etc... It's all about the winning. That's one reason why Favre will always slide down the scale a bit. Montana and Starr were both incredible in championship games.

    I'm split 50/50 between Joe Montana and Bart Starr. Both are also decent role models.
    We share the same criteria for judging the "best". It is also why Elway will slide down the scale for me. Remember, Montana's winning ways go back to his college days.
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