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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    The entire game came down to 3 plays:

    Sorry, I just can't agree with you. The game was won by the Giants defensive line. They stepped up and shut down the Pats offense. They were able to disrupt Brady, and make him extremely uncomfortable.

    The opening drive by the Giants was phenomenal, as well. Taking up 9 minutes, and converting how many 3rd downs? The Pat's were forced to play on the Giants terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    Sorry, I just can't agree with you. The game was won by the Giants defensive line. They stepped up and shut down the Pats offense. They were able to disrupt Brady, and make him extremely uncomfortable.
    Note: I did give the Giants Defense credit:
    Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    As much as I hate to say it, the Pats were outplayed, and outcoached.
    The Giants' D-line dominated so Brady wasn't able to take advantage of their weak secondary.
    Despite that, the game did come down to those three plays. If the Giants hadn't been able to convert on those 3rd downs, or if Moss has caught that bomb the game could have turned out differently.

    George, I do agree with you on your point. The Pats didn't seem to learn from Week 17 (or 18, or 19..) and didn't come out prepared for the game.
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    Typical Boston behavior...

    ESPN is reporting that Tom Brady and Randy Moss have opted out of the Pro Bowl. Reportedly, they have ankle injuries.

    That's odd, I didn't see them get hurt on Sunday. Sounds to me like they are simply spoiled rotten embarrassed brats.

    Ya know, I read in more than one place this past week that people were touting Brady as the Best Quarterback EVER! I just hope that his juvenile behavior and his average Super Bowl game put all this talk to rest. Is he a great QB? Absolutely. The best ever? He can only dream.

    Before you ask...Joe Montana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Before you ask...Joe Montana.
    Holy cow, we agree on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voyager9 View Post
    Note: I did give the Giants Defense credit:

    I know you did; I'm just a bit biased towards defensive lines.

    I really thought that they were the key to the win. Brady was never able to get comfortable and steady while dropping back.

    Despite that, the game did come down to those three plays. If the Giants hadn't been able to convert on those 3rd downs, or if Moss has caught that bomb the game could have turned out differently.

    That's all speculation. I will argue till I'm blue in the face that an opening 9 minute drive, especially one that has as many third down conversions as they had, will completely change the tempo of a game. Essentially they were able to ice the Pats offense, and let all of that emotion and excitement wear off before they even had one snap.

    Those were 3 notable plays, but I'll still say that the entire game's tempo was changed by the Giants defensive line, and the Giants ability to convert on third down. If they let Brady get back in the pocket with time, the Giants secondary will never be able to cover Moss and Welker. Beside the point that Brady was missing wide open receivers, due to being harassed the entire game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Before you ask...Joe Montana.

    It all depends on what you put as your criteria, but I like overall winning of championships. It doesn't matter how many touchdowns, how many interceptions, etc... It's all about the winning. That's one reason why Favre will always slide down the scale a bit. Montana and Starr were both incredible in championship games.

    I'm split 50/50 between Joe Montana and Bart Starr. Both are also decent role models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasper45 View Post
    It all depends on what you put as your criteria, but I like overall winning of championships. It doesn't matter how many touchdowns, how many interceptions, etc... It's all about the winning. That's one reason why Favre will always slide down the scale a bit. Montana and Starr were both incredible in championship games.

    I'm split 50/50 between Joe Montana and Bart Starr. Both are also decent role models.
    We share the same criteria for judging the "best". It is also why Elway will slide down the scale for me. Remember, Montana's winning ways go back to his college days.
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