I am looking into attending the Fire Academy at Tri-C that starts in March, and I saw that the price to take the class is around $750.00, I was wondering, anyone else who has paid their own way through the Academy, what are the "hidden" costs you have to pay...equipment,etc. Any insight would be helpful, thanks.
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01-28-2008, 11:14 PM #1Forum Member
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01-28-2008, 11:21 PM #2Everyone goes home!
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i went there last august and no matter what the price it is the best damn fire academy in the state of ohio!!!! well you have to rent your gear and your scba im not exactly sure on the price for this but i wanna say both of them are around 750$ if you have family or know someone that works at a fire dept they might let you borrow the bunker gear but they have a payment plan that is 3 installments of i think 650 maybe a little bit more if you have any more questions that i can help you with pm me
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01-29-2008, 11:16 AM #3
And what might you have to base this claim off of? I'm just curious, because I've heard of plenty of other good places across the state. Such as the Ohio Fire Academy, Owens Community College, any of the big cities departmental academies....etc.the best damn fire academy in the state of ohio!!!!
I know that Owens Community College has a very well known and respected Academy. Toledo Fire has actually moved its academy out to their campus. they just opened a $20.5 million Center for Emergency Preparedness.
If you want to start by getting your I-A card, there is no eaiser or better way than the State Fire School that is held at Bowling Green State University every May and October. You can knock out your I-A class in a week and it costs $325 I believe.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-29-2008, 01:03 PM #4Everyone goes home!
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when you have class room work it is lecture you learn alot from it then you will take a test on the lecture then you usually go out side for hands on. it is really fun to go to class you meet alot of new people that will be your family you have a uniform the have u wear its a t shirt and then blue pants and black boots. the instructors are all really cool and willing to help with everything you need home work you have to complete the workbook chapters for the following day!!! any others just ask im willing to help with anything you need also do the 10 week program so it will be monday wednesday friday do not do the six week you will be way to tired
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What department even allows 36hr as a minimum any more? The state minimum is 120hr if you respond from a station. This changed a couple of years ago. Get your 240 card if you even think this is what you want to do. I makes no difference which academy you go to. Go to the one that is close to you. They all have to teach the same information. If any of you think you are going to be real fireman when you are done in the academy, you are sorely mistaken. The academy is a starting point. You need to get a lot of OTJ training and pay attention to the guys with experience.
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01-29-2008, 02:23 PM #6
You would be very surprised at how many departments only require the 36 card.
Very surprised.
I wasn't sure if the OP wanted to go FT, PT, or volunteer. And regardless, it's not a bad place to start either way. If he just wants to get his feet wet, why not try the I-A class.
Sure, everyone knows that the 36 hour class only teaches you enough to get yourself hurt, but it is still a valid certification that is the minimum requirement for, I would say, a majority of the fire departments in the state.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-29-2008, 02:47 PM #7Everyone goes home!
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still get it over with and get your 240 and CCC i believe is the only academy in the state that burns a real house most other places use burn building which doesn't teach you real firefighting
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Owens is good if you dont need any "live fire" training in your academy. Toledo fire uses it yes, but does all live fire training at Airport facility or houses in the city, so not much real fire training at Owens.
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01-29-2008, 03:30 PM #9Forum Member
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The only way a 36 hour card is even "legal" any more in Ohio is for a true volunteer department. I am sure that in the rural areas that mey be the case. But, if you staff your station at all, your personnel are required to have more than 36 hours. I am not even sure if they grandfathered anyone in. I think everyone had to comply. We made our people get up to snuff.
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01-29-2008, 03:52 PM #10Forum Member
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I appreciate all the answers so fast, and I plan to do the Tues/Thurs/Sat class which is in the evening because I work 8a-4p Mon-Fri, which lasts a few months so it doesn't appear to be a rushed program. If I think of anything else I will be sure to ask, and thanks again.
And as far as involvement I have been taking tests with a few cities, tryng to get a FT job and start off the career I really want, and I am sitting okay on the lists, so I may get a look. And being able to go into an interview and say I've done the Academy and have my 240 would be a huge help i believe.Last edited by ike053; 01-29-2008 at 03:55 PM.
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01-29-2008, 04:01 PM #11Everyone goes home!
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good luck budd
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01-29-2008, 05:53 PM #12
Thats what I meant, because a majority of departments are volunteer.
And I knwow that there are plenty of departments who staff either a medic unit, engine, echo unit, or likewise from 7 or 8 am to 4 or 5 pm and the personnel working these shifts do not have to have a 120 or even 240 card. Just a 36.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-29-2008, 05:56 PM #13
If you applied to Toledo, which the closing date is Wed I believe, they will put you through their academy regardless of you firefighting cert or which department you were on previously.
And I could be wrong, but I dont think that Toledo Fire does any training at all anymore out at the old training facility by the airport because that facility has been transferred over to the Northwest Ohio Region 1 Urban Search and Rescue Team.
Keep in mind that I could be 125% wrong.
I know that alot of area departments also send people to MURAD for burn time as well.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-29-2008, 07:03 PM #14
Keep on 'em Jake !
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Clarification on State Rules
The state still only requires firefighter 1&2 for full time employees everyone else is still classified as a volunteer and the only state requirement is the 36 hour course. There is no section in state law that applies to part-time or part paid employees. The state's stand is that is a local decision. P.S. CCC does run a good show if they are in your price range and neighborhood that would be where you should go.
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Urban search truck is present at airport facility. Trust me there is alot of sweat and blood on the pavement out there from the last two TFD Drill school classes. If you get the job in october bet your *** you will spend a great deal of time at the airport.
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01-31-2008, 02:13 PM #17
Yup. Just what I said above. I've been out there plenty.
I was just going off of what I had heard from certain TFD higher ups.Trust me there is alot of sweat and blood on the pavement out there from the last two TFD Drill school classes. If you get the job in october bet your *** you will spend a great deal of time at the airport
Like I said, could be wrong.Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-31-2008, 02:26 PM #18Forum Member
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Listen the whole point of the Owens posting was to state that we dont use owens for "live fire". Unless you want propane and a couple of pallets to be your "live fire" find another academy.
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01-31-2008, 02:41 PM #19
Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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whatever you goof. Good-luck on the test.
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