I need to get some differences between U.S. fire depts./firefighting and European dept's/firefighting for a class.
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01-31-2008, 01:12 PM #1Forum Member
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U.S. and European differences
Last edited by Firediver; 01-31-2008 at 01:15 PM.
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01-31-2008, 01:54 PM #2
The UK puts all of thier steering wheels on the wrong side.
Seriously, the first things that come to mind are some of the differences in building construction; building access in the UK due to older, narrower streets; drastically different apparatus designs; the fact that in the UK, the FD brings thier fire hydrants with them; and a more defind command structure.
This is just based on my limited reading and knowledge of the topic, I'm sure there are many others that can shed a lot more light on this....Career Fire Captain
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01-31-2008, 09:25 PM #3
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PSI vs. KPa
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01-31-2008, 09:41 PM #5MembersZone Subscriber
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A lot of them speak different languages.
They also wear those silly helmets!Chris Polimeni
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01-31-2008, 09:44 PM #6
Different style of fire apparatus. Looks wise. I dont know anything other than that. Also i have heard that they dont do vertical ventilation unless they have to.
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01-31-2008, 09:44 PM #7
A lot of them actually speak english properly.
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01-31-2008, 10:24 PM #8
They love their fog streams and while some departments do here, ask any big city guy and he will swear by his straight stream.
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Interior vs Exterior attack.
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01-31-2008, 10:44 PM #10
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01-31-2008, 10:47 PM #11Just because it's called a throw bag, doesn't mean you throw the whole bag... you're supposed to hold onto the rope.
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01-31-2008, 11:37 PM #12
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02-01-2008, 03:15 AM #13
That's not fair...I've been to the USA on a number of times and have seen plenty of interior Firefighting...
Just like we've been doing for hundreds of years???
Anyway,
for a true view of Firefighting in the UK...which is pretty representative of the rest of the civilised world apart from the US/Canada, my article here explains fairly well and even in simple terms for those who might struggle with their understanding of anything that happens beyond the big ocean!!
UK FirefightingLast edited by SteveDude; 02-01-2008 at 03:29 AM.
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02-01-2008, 03:31 AM #14
A few photos...


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02-01-2008, 06:53 AM #15
the firetrucks are different from the american trucks.the fire tactics also.
site of the french brigade of Paris:
http://www.pompiersparis.fr/bur_serv...p106/index.htm
site of a friend of mine with different gears,the guys and gals can wear:
http://pompiers-saintsymphoriensurco...d=46&Itemid=39"sauver ou périr"
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2 french mottoes in french fire service.
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02-01-2008, 06:56 AM #16
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02-01-2008, 08:25 AM #17
Thanks for the link Steve - very interesting article. Even if I did have translate back from yank-speak a few times...
I was asked once on a forum if firefighting in Australia was along the North American or European lines. Definitely along Brit lines (I've been told numerous times that our methods were all taken from the Manual of Firemanship in the beginning. At least I think that's the name of it?). Very much multi-discipline, no such thing as truck, engine, squad or whatever crews. Some States have retained firefighters, but here in Vic we only have career and volunteer (no pay for us at all, so they never mind having us work overtime...).
I know the original question only mentioned the USA and Europe - but I have to jump up and wave the flag so that we don't get totally forgotten! Anyway Firediver, I think Steve has provided you with what you need!Last edited by volfirie; 02-01-2008 at 08:28 AM.
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02-01-2008, 08:56 AM #18
Another difference between US and Euro firefighting is preconnected attack lines. Most Euro fire apparatus have a booster line as the only preconnect on the rig. They stretch rolls of hose as needed, while in the US and Canada we use preconnected hose lines.
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After speaking to some UK guys their work rules are very specific. How often and how much you can work. What kind of work you can do and for how long. Maximum loading and lifting requirements.
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