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    Smile Fun thing to do

    if anyone have a good idea for training for explores with any live fire exercises please let me know Thanks


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    Keep it simple and basic. Starting off with the easy stuff.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Default Just an Idea......

    Look up Mock Disasters in the search. It may give you some ideas. Like said above....Keep it simple and basic. Starting off with easy stuff.
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    What ^^^^^^he^^^^^^ said.
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    Smile hey

    the way we train our junior witch is what i am is we find find cars and that are completly gutted or w/e you can find get some nice dry wood light it and let them go on what they know all packed up and everything while keeping them a safe distance away and then we will show them the right way if ne of them are doing it wrong so at least they get to feel some sort of heat and also can practice how to put a fire out while keeping it safe.

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    The one peice of advice I can give for this is LOTS OF HANDS ON. Dont keep everyone in a classroom watching Power Point Lectures..give them the basics and then take em out and have em do it...best way to learn..and it keeps it fun...I am a HUGE advocate for Hands on...

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    And what ^^^he^^^ said too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfdlieutenant View Post
    if anyone have a good idea for training for explores with any live fire exercises please let me know Thanks
    Unless they are 18, the only "live fire" would/should be some extinguisher work. And even then only if there experienced people there too.

    To prepare for live fire..

    placement of ladders
    tool ID
    hose lays
    air pack knowledge
    building construction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resq1scnd2none View Post
    Unless they are 18, the only "live fire" would/should be some extinguisher work. And even then only if there experienced people there too.
    Maybe where you live, but explorers are allowed to participate in live burns and simulators such as rollover simulators as long as they follow the NFPA regs and it is TRAINING.

    Our post has gone through some of it and everyone had a great time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    Maybe where you live, but explorers are allowed to participate in live burns and simulators such as rollover simulators as long as they follow the NFPA regs and it is TRAINING.

    Our post has gone through some of it and everyone had a great time.
    I am pretty sure thats how it is at our deparment, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    Maybe where you live, but explorers are allowed to participate in live burns and simulators such as rollover simulators as long as they follow the NFPA regs and it is TRAINING.

    Our post has gone through some of it and everyone had a great time.
    Now we all know that firefighting is dangerous. So, lets say I wouldn't be called into court because an under 18 youth was injured.


    Look here:

    http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/childlbr.htm

    and here:

    http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/youthla...ardousjobs.htm

    and how many on this list do firefghters do in one way or another?

    http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/Title_.../Subpart_E.htm

    To sum it up? Book learnin' 'fore you start earnin'!
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    Lookie here--
    http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o...saster%202007/
    Those pictures are included here-


    And at the National Fire Explorer Conference, there was a class we could take that was LIVE FIRE (ventilation, searches, and attack).
    Seen here-
    http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o...e%20Institute/

    AND look here-
    http://www.learning-for-life.org/exp...ire/index.html
    "Exceptions: Using an official training facility, the use of aerial ladders with the appropriate safety equipment, and entering a controlled burn building is approved.".

    Here-
    http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o...er%20Pictures/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resq1scnd2none View Post
    Now we all know that firefighting is dangerous. So, lets say I wouldn't be called into court because an under 18 youth was injured.


    Look here:

    http://www.dol.gov/compliance/guide/childlbr.htm

    and here:

    http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/youthla...ardousjobs.htm

    and how many on this list do firefghters do in one way or another?

    http://www.dol.gov/dol/allcfr/Title_.../Subpart_E.htm

    To sum it up? Book learnin' 'fore you start earnin'!
    First of all...........look at the above post.


    Second of all.................we do have "book learnin" as we train with the Firefighter I curriculum.
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    thank you for all your ideas they will be looked at in our post we are not to be put in to a live fire situation only smoke house filled with fake smoke is the closest we get

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erfdlieutenant View Post
    thank you for all your ideas they will be looked at in our post we are not to be put in to a live fire situation only smoke house filled with fake smoke is the closest we get

    Sorry..by your first post it sounded like you did. Anyway, do some ladder work...I see "regular firefighters that couldn't throw and foot a ladder if their life depended on it!

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    Cool my juniors love it

    in my dept the jr's are allowed to everything the seniors do in training.

    i am the jr chief and with my juniors i like tons of hands on and interacting with the seniors b/c a lot of the juniors will become 18 soon and then be a senior so e need to be all together.

    some fun trainings we have done that go over well are.
    ~busted hose
    ~basic hose handling
    ~we smoke out our bay area and do search and rescue
    ~we quiz eachother on whats on each of the trucks
    --like for example i would say 'ok bob go get me the hydrant wrench
    ------off of 611' and then bob would go get it. and i would ask to describe --------where it was.
    ~they like when we got to used the extracation tools


    hope this helps.

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    I agree with Resq. Around here, explorers and live fire do not go together.
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    We like to play 3-6 man volleyball or basketball with SCBA & PPE on. When switching in players they must trade SCBA before entering court. Only active players may switch tanks. good luck.
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    OSHA here prohibits those under 18 from breathing on an SCBA so any live fire has to be outside.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmfire View Post
    OSHA here prohibits those under 18 from breathing on an SCBA so any live fire has to be outside.
    OSHA is a federal standard. If your state has more stringent standards it isnt OHSA. OSHA does not in itself prevent under 18 from using an SCBA

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