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    Question Alarm ringing response?

    My department has recently instituted a much more aggressive alarm-ringing response. In the past, most occupancies got 1 unit to check out an alarm ringing (general, water-flow,unknown, etc) and it seemed to be working. Can anyone advise their current policy so I can have a comparison. Thanks.


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    It depends on what type of structure and if its automatic or a call.

    For residential, an AFA gets 1 engine and 1 special service (squad or truck). If it's called in and the caller says it's a malfunction, it gets 1 engine.

    Commercial AFA's get 2 engines and a special service.

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    For AFA's we get 1 engine and 1 ladder truck. If the caller states that its an alarm malfunctions it's 1 engine.
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    We will send 1 Engine Code 3 and a 1 Ladder Code 2 (with normal traffic)



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    Audible Alarm Bells get- 1 Engine, 1 Special Service

    AFA (any structure other than a single family dwelling without confirmation of smoke or fire)- Same as above

    Residential AFA- 1 Engine
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    We respond 1 Engine & 1 Ladder to fire alarm systems. High risk alarms (high rise, high occupancy) also adds a Battalion Chief. Once enroute, and advised it is a accidental or false alarm, the 1st due unit will continue non emergency to verify it was false.

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    Alarm activation for us is a normal response. Same as an accident, structure fire, etc. Once a Fire Department official is on scene, the response can be downgraded.
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    one engine hot - one engine cold for all automatic alarms.

    If it is identified as malfunction prior to arrival, first due continues with traffic.

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    One engine, one special response (tower ladder or heavy rescue) for both commercial and residential...
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    Pretty consistent with the rest.

    One Engine, One Quint, the Chief brings the Utility/Command.

    First due is hot, others are cold.
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    Residential AFA gets an engine

    Commercial AFA gets an engine and a ladder. If reported false alarm or accidental pull engine continues and ladder goes with traffic or will return.
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    All normal alarms get 1 engine, 1 tower, 1 ambo. Any calls that indicate a known false get the engine non-emergency and the others only continue if their on the road. All High risk (hotels, nursing homes, elderly housing, High hazard industrial) get 2 engines, tower, ambo, and chief.

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    We send 1 Pumper, 1 Tanker and usually a Chief or DC in POV
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeudorfJ View Post
    My department has recently instituted a much more aggressive alarm-ringing response. In the past, most occupancies got 1 unit to check out an alarm ringing (general, water-flow,unknown, etc) and it seemed to be working. Can anyone advise their current policy so I can have a comparison. Thanks.
    Depends...are you speaking of a phone alarm for someone reporting an alarm ringing in their building or on their street? Like a water flow gong?

    Or are you refering to an automatic fire alarm notification from a licenced company like ADT....etc.?

    Minimum 1 Engine 1 Truck (and usually a chief unless they believe it to be a CO det)

    Auto alarm...usually 2 and 2 if not 3 and 2....but if availability is low...1 and 1.

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    We send a full assignment: Two Engines, Truck, and EMS, unless there is a known alarm malfunction, to which we'll send 1 engine non-emergency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell View Post
    Pretty consistent with the rest.

    One Engine, One Quint, the Chief brings the Utility/Command.

    First due is hot, others are cold.
    Same here, unless its a water flow alarm. That gets a full first alarm (3 engines, quint, rescue, DC) with all "hot".
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    Were a volly dept with 3 engines and 2 chiefs.

    residential for anything - all our units go hot untill instructed by first arriving unit to downgrade

    commercial for anything - all our units go hot as well as an automatic aid from surrounding towns for 1 100' tower W/additional engine (the town the tower comes from has an SOP if the truck goes an engine goes with it) and a 75' stick.

    Schools while occupied - same as commercial, when not occupied just our units.

    High rise - same as commercial, this is because the facility were talking about is a assisted living complex one of the buildings has no stand pipes

    go hot untill the situation is deemed false you never know what comes in as the usual alarm at a given location one time could be the real deal (know from past experience) better to have it coming and down grade it than get there and say ooo crud where is everything cause the fires blowing out the windows.

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    It would be a dream land if we only sent 1 and 1 to afa's. 3 and 2 for bs is the norm.

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    We used to send just the Quint with min staffing (3) on an AFA. Until last March we got called out for a residential AFA at 0530 and pulled up on scene with a working fire in the crawl space under the house. So we were there with just 3 FFs and 500 gallons of water for almost 5 minutes until the engine and tanker got there. Fortunately we were able to open up the floor and knock the fire down quickly, but if it had gotten up into the walls we would have been up shats creek without a paddle. The particular incident changes alot of peoples views on AFA responses.... for a little while. Now we're back to just the quint going with 3.
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    For us it depends how many guys show up for the call. But we fill the trucks as if it were a working fire if we have enough guys. In town the captain will take the command unit and we will take the Tower and Pump - in that order. In the county the captain takes the command and we will take the Pump and Tanker.

    If there is still enough guys the Rescue comes and the Chief responds to everything at his own discretion unless asked to respond by the captain. If it comes in as a fire and not an alarm the chief comes usually.
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    Post "Bells ringing" response

    We send our quint w/ 4 or 5 "on the reds" and everythign else "routine" until we get a size up. We protect both rural and suburban so it can take a few minutes to arrive in the rural areas if there isn't a Deputy available. What responds when is determined by where the building is. Hydranted areas engine is second, rural means tanker/tender is second.

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