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    Talking Brand Spankin New Kentland Thread

    Here you go boys. A new and current thread to enjoy.

    I am also amazed that these guys can run so many calls for a 100% vollie station. If they are aggressive, god bless them, but a little class goes along way. If they were around here, they wouldnt be invited to my party(or anyone elses) if they didnt play well. Does PGFD have mutual aid agreements in place? Whats the deal Harve?
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    Hey, lets all start a Kentland thread. They can't shut us all down.............can they?

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    We could start another thread but we might not "finish what we start", we should just go home Kentland's got it.

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    What is up with Kentland? I missed the last thread. What the big deal?

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    Yeah, what is this "kentland" I hear so much about?
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    Yeah, what is this "kentland" I hear so much about?
    The land where Kent is from. Duh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RspctFrmCalgary View Post
    The land where Kent is from. Duh!

    hey now, don't go bashing kent, i live next to a city named kent and a very respectible fire department named Kent Fire Department, just because kent is in the name doesn't mean everything with kent is bad :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhenrich View Post
    hey now, don't go bashing kent, i live next to a city named kent and a very respectible fire department named Kent Fire Department, just because kent is in the name doesn't mean everything with kent is bad :P

    No Kent bashing going on here! I was referring to our friend from down under, PSFB
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    Forget KENTland, I want to go to BARBIEland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frmboybuck View Post
    Here you go boys. A new and current thread to enjoy.

    I am also amazed that these guys can run so many calls for a 100% vollie station. If they are aggressive, god bless them, but a little class goes along way. If they were around here, they wouldnt be invited to my party(or anyone elses) if they didnt play well. Does PGFD have mutual aid agreements in place? Whats the deal Harve?

    Buck, Two Things.............

    1. IN BEFORE THE LOCK!!.......

    2. In this area "Mutual Aid" is not a term that's used much. What we do is EVERYONE participates in the following arrangement:

    If you are the closest FD or VFD to an Address, it's yours, Everything that is yours is known as your "First Due".

    If you are the 2nd closest, you are 2nd due, and so on........... 75th due?? yeah, someone is........

    Each County is required to have a Central Dispatch Center to serve that County.

    Each County Dispatch Center receives all calls that orgionate in that County, via the 911 phone system. If you live in Maryland, You MUST call 911 for an Emergency and NO Agency may advertise any other phone number for emergency use.

    All apparatus is dispatched solely on the basis of who is closest. Period. No Town, City, Township (Thank God we don't have Townships!!) or State lines interfere. A VFD north of us routinely gets Apparatus from 4 Different COUNTIES on a box alarm. (Box alarms are 4 Engines, 2 Ladders, A Heavy Rescue, and a couple of Chiefs. Minimum.) A box alarm is dispatched for every Structure Fire.

    Mutual Aid? No, we all function as one huge organization, even though Apparatus colors and department names are different on every piece out there. And we wouldn't have it any other way.

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    Only One Person benefits from this system, and that's the person who needs help. And that, of course, is why we're here in the first place.
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    Sounds like a pretty good system Marylands got going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwoods View Post
    Buck, Two Things.............

    If you are the closest FD or VFD to an Address, it's yours, Everything that is yours is known as your "First Due".
    Harv how is this determined? We just finally got an automatic mutual aid system working in our county, but it is still based on your original territory. We have our coverage area that we normally respond to, but if we have a confirmed structure fire the next closest department sends an engine. The way you describe sounds like a much better system as we have an area that is only 5 road miles from our station. The problem is that the department that has this area is 9 miles away so we are technically 2nd due for mutual aid.

    One other question. How long has your dispatch system been in place? I would love for something like this to happen in our county!
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    I'm in Montgomery County, sort of the other side from PG, but generally speaking:
    - You get called first for what's in your first due (naturally). [ Chief, the first due lines are terminated at the county lines, correct? So that would mean that some places in your first due might actually be farther from your station than from one in the neighboring county. But you'd still get them before the closer station in the other county. Right? ]
    - If a piece from your station is already committed on a call, the next closest station - from whatever jurisdiction - gets it. Our stations next to the PG County line are routinely called directly by PG, then check up with our own ECC as they start on the call. 12 (Hillandale) and 15 (Burtonsville) run a lot into PG, just as PG 34 runs a lot into Montgomery.
    - The mutual aid agreements are automatic, so there's no extra clearance needed to request aid. Montgomery units routinely run into Frederick, Howard, Carroll, and Prince George's counties, the District of Columbia, and into Fairfax (VA) County (usually on the Beltway).
    - The integration between these jurisdictions (via the Washington area Council of Governments) has tightened up considerably over the years; most use interoperable 800-MHz radios and most have gone to the new COG numbering system, where each jurisdiction gets a prefix (7 for Montgomery, 8, for PG, etc.) For example, Montgomery medic 299 is now Medic 729, PG Engine 341 is now Engine 834.

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    Thanks Harve, I now have 2 posts in before the lock. I was wondering how that worked out there. Around here we get to decide who we play with. We get along with pretty much everyone here but there are those that we call for first and those that will always be called last. Our mutual aid is mainly for water. Thats normally all we need as the fires dont get very big around here to constitute large amounts of manpower. Our district is 85 square miles and set up really weird. For example,on the west we go within 1/4 mile of the neighboring town(7 miles from our station). Why it is set up like that i'll never know but thats the way its been for years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sts060 View Post
    I'm in Montgomery County, sort of the other side from PG, but generally speaking:
    - You get called first for what's in your first due (naturally). [ Chief, the first due lines are terminated at the county lines, correct? So that would mean that some places in your first due might actually be farther from your station than from one in the neighboring county. But you'd still get them before the closer station in the other county. Right? ]
    - If a piece from your station is already committed on a call, the next closest station - from whatever jurisdiction - gets it. Our stations next to the PG County line are routinely called directly by PG, then check up with our own ECC as they start on the call. 12 (Hillandale) and 15 (Burtonsville) run a lot into PG, just as PG 34 runs a lot into Montgomery.
    - The mutual aid agreements are automatic, so there's no extra clearance needed to request aid. Montgomery units routinely run into Frederick, Howard, Carroll, and Prince George's counties, the District of Columbia, and into Fairfax (VA) County (usually on the Beltway).
    - The integration between these jurisdictions (via the Washington area Council of Governments) has tightened up considerably over the years; most use interoperable 800-MHz radios and most have gone to the new COG numbering system, where each jurisdiction gets a prefix (7 for Montgomery, 8, for PG, etc.) For example, Montgomery medic 299 is now Medic 729, PG Engine 341 is now Engine 834.

    Yeah and from what I have heard.....no one likes using the whole idea of using COG unit numbers in county. Pretty f'ing stupid if you ask me.

    So these are the old designations on the left and new on the right:

    RS19= R741
    RS18= R741B

    M10= M741
    M11= M741B
    M12= M741C

    A13= A741D
    A14= A741E
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    "The watch desk has alot of info on it."

    The Watchdesk makes the National Enquierer look like the New York Times. The info on there is barely relevant.

    Not a shot at you RFRD, thats my opinion, but I think I am pretty close to the mark.

    Maybe someone else can correct me if I am wrong. But I believe there are Box Assignments in Pg (34's area) that Mont. Co. is actually listed as first due and with the new COG number, is actually dispatched as such. I know down by me, the new National Harbor project will have Fairfax and I believe NDW units dispatched on the initial box alarm.


    And yes, just about everyone HATES the new COG numbering.

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    Most of Virginia is just as though Harve described.

    In my rural volunteer county, we're dispatched just like PG. There are 5 independent VFD's that are dispatched through the county's 911 center, and we work in harmony with one another. Likewise, if there are stations in another county that are closer to the scene, they automatically respond, and vice versa. This includes the large, 500 person career department that borders our 1st due .... when we respond automatic aid into their jurisdiction, we're just plugged into the system like one of their own, and when they respond in our county, we have them fill the role of the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd due engine as outlined in our county's SOP's.

    Although I know it happens all over the US, the practice of "picking" your mutual aid is so foreign folks in our area.

    Now, back to the original topic, you know the boys on Landover Road have to be sitting back a laughing as we continue to talk about 'em...
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