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    For the guys that operate ladder companies.....Do you carry the NFPA ladders or the ISO complement?
    If the manufacturer offers both, which did you choose. Looks like duplication of ladders carried on an engine ( 16,24,35 and 14 combo) with NFPA; when ISO wants 16,20,28,35,40 . And if you carry the ISO, are they hard to remove from the ladder compartment when you go to deploy them.

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    ON our current truck we carry just over the ISO ratin with the excaeption of the 40'. we have (to the best of my memory) 16 & 18 roof 14,24,28,35,39. As for ISO, last time were were rated, we "failed" the Ground ladder part becsue we didn't have what they want, we had to file an appeal with them explaining we carry more, we were then awarded the points or what ever it is they use to calculate. Not sure if thats normal for ISO ir if we just had a dick of an inspector.
    I can tell you on our new truck we plan to have the same ammount PLUS. we're looking to have a minimum of 200 ft of ladders. Mainly becasue we're a truck company (one of the fe in the area) that throws every possible ground ladder we can, we have even on calls stripped engines.
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    If this question has anything to do with a future purchase of a ladder truck I have one bit of advise regardless of whose standard you choose, have the ladders bedded on the beam not horizontally. This makes it much easier on the troops removing and replacing the ladders on the rig. One should not have to roll a ladder into carrying position while trying to hold the ladder. Work smarter not harder.

    At home we carry 16 and 20 foot straight ladders, 2 section 24, 28, and 35 foot ladders, a 10 foot scizzor ladder, a 14 foot attic ladder and a little giant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfTL41 View Post
    have the ladders bedded on the beam not horizontally. This makes it much easier on the troops removing and replacing the ladders on the rig. One should not have to roll a ladder into carrying position while trying to hold the ladder. Work smarter not harder.


    AMEN.....

    Also.... from what i'm told and have seen you can fit more ladders in the ladder tunnel this way.
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    We exceed the ISO compliment, which BTW is in excess of the NFPA requirement. Our Truck carries (2) 35' 2-section, (1) 28' 2-section, and 1 each: 20',18',16',14' roof/wall ladders, a 22' Little Giant on the cab roof and a 10' folding attic ladder. The 14' roof is mounted in the fly section for retrieval from the bucket. All ladders in the tunnel are on their beams as jfTL41 notes they are much easier to remove and replace this way.

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    We have:

    2 - 16' roof
    2 - 24'
    1 - 35'
    1 - 10' attic

    Total of: 125 feet of ground ladders
    All are mounted in the ladder compartment except for one roof ladder that is mounted on the aerial.

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    I'm with jfTL whatever you end with make sure they are stored on thier beam. I have been on departments with both, and beam in so much easier.

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    We carry:
    2-24' 2 section extension ladders
    2-28' 2 section extension ladders
    2-35' 2 section extension ladders
    1-45' 3 section extension ladder
    1-10' aerial mounted roof ladder
    2-14' roof ladders
    1-16' roof ladder
    1-18' roof ladder
    1-20' roof ladder
    1-8' A frame ladder

    For a total of 319' of ground ladders. Still not enough in some situations, but you have to work with what you have.

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    Our ladder truck carries the following

    2-24's
    2-28's
    2-35's
    1-45
    1-10' aerial mounted
    2-14's
    1-16'
    1-18'
    1-20'
    1-8' A frame

    319 total feet and still not enough in my book.

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