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    I'm a bit confused about a termoinology question here. I've seen a number of people refer to the backpack/harness/cylinder assemlby of a Scott Airpack as a "mask" and the part that goes on your face as the "facepiece"

    the facepiece part makes since, I just cant figure out why anyone would call the backpack part of the SCBA a mask.

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    Never heard of that and that wouldn't make any sense. We use them and have never had it referred that way from Scott or our maintenance guys. Here are a couple links from their site with their descriptions (didn't look real close, so if it says it somewhere, I didn't see it).

    http://www.scotthealthsafety.com/Ame...678_010808.pdf

    http://www.scotthealthsafety.com/Sco...x?FileID=18806
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    I believe it is a regional thing... I know several guys from the FDNY that refer to their packs as "masks". In fact their SCBA service units are called "Mask Service Units".

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    I always called the harness, cylinder etc the Pack and the facepiece the Mask

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    I was confused at first, when I was at FH Central HOT classes. It was explained to me, in no uncertain terms, like this;
    *holds up backplate and cylander* "This is yer fockin MASK!"
    *holds up facepiece* "This is yer fockin facepiece! Any more fockin questions?"

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    MASK...Mobile Air Supply Kit.

    FACE-PIECE...Mask?


























































    Well, it makes about as much sense.


    I (we) always refer to the harness and bottle as the pack, and the face-piece as the mask. I've never heard of the harness being called the mask.

    Then again, we use Interspiro, so who the hell knows!
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    Mobile Air Supply Kit, that makes since. I'm from NYS aswell, so it must be a North East thing

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    Like some here have said, I call the harness/tank the pack and the mask is either the mask or facepiece.
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    Default It is a cultural/departmental thing.

    We call the whole assembly a "mask". Officially the Scott SCBA/CBRN Mask.
    Each part has it's own designation.
    Harness/backpack assembly
    The piece that goes on your face; the facepiece
    Cylinder, not a bottle or tank. First is used to drink from second is an armored vehicle with a really big gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireman4949 View Post
    MASK...Mobile Air Supply Kit.

    FACE-PIECE...Mask?


























































    Well, it makes about as much sense.


    I (we) always refer to the harness and bottle as the pack, and the face-piece as the mask. I've never heard of the harness being called the mask.

    Then again, we use Interspiro, so who the hell knows!
    Just to be clear here, I made up the "Mobile Air Supply Kit". I have no idea why it's called a mask.
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    Or not to be confused with MASK
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    Wearing a mask It's on your back.

    Using a mask The facepiece is on your face.

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    We use the same terms and I imagine it is for the purpose of brevity. For example, the guys know if they are told to go get their air mask, its the whole thing - backplate, cylinder, harness, and face piece.

    Just kinda a slang thing I guess. And its not specific to just Scott.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocVBFDE14 View Post
    Or not to be confused with MASK
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh11NDMHVl0
    OMG....that brings back memories!!! Where did you dig that up....I loved that show!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CalmB4Storm View Post
    Wearing a mask It's on your back.

    Using a mask The facepiece is on your face.
    Exactly!!!!
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