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    Good idea BLS.

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    Talking

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    Excuse me, I'm a bit confused, but is this the thread discussing whether or not Juniors should be equal to, if not greater than, senior FFs?

    Couldn't resist!!!
    These are my opinions, not those of my career department, my volunteer company, or my affiliates. And by the way, I'm not a Junior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
    If you are an Explorer, or Jr, or anything other then an active FIREFIGHTER, you have NO buisness with the following;
    Interior firefighting.
    Exterior firefighting
    Radios, unless they play music
    Emergency lights, sirens, or responding
    Power tools on scene
    Rank
    Or whining.

    Ask smart questions. I can care less what kind of LEDs you have on your new Super Duper QUINT/Tanker/Heavy Resq, and I will probably make fun of you. But, you want to learn about ropes and knots, why you use a large calibur line, bunker gear donning tips, SCBA donning tips, or something that will help you develop yourself, ask away.
    I agree with everything other than the radio part. I train all our explorers to be just as proficient and useful on the radio as any other firefighter. With that, an explorer can carry out a fireground support function that may entail speaking on the radio. This can range from traffic control to simply retrieving equipment. They don't speak unless spoken to. But if they are given a task that requires communication, they can and will do it well.

    Not sure why rank is bad thing. Each year they elect a president and vice president. Those two are responsible for the day-to-day business of the explorer post. They are responsible for communicating upcoming drills and activities, head-counts, keeping the group on-task at drills, and planning fund raising. They are generally the two most knowledgeable of the equipment and operations. They don't really have authority for anything on scene since everyone falls under standard ICS anyway.
    Even the burger-flippers at McDonald's probably have some McWackers.

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    Lightbulb well since you asked

    what is a good way to "get on" with the guys at a house near me?
    do I call?
    walk in one day?
    say "hey, I know a guy who rolls for 33rd truck on cactus and 32nd
    and he said"...
    Forgive me my ignorance, I just know If you want to talk to a soldier, you don't just stroll on the base range and start slinging (bull that is)
    you see I am well aware that I only stand to gain practical knowledge with a question, as most often the issue isn't your lights, of radio (or in my case combat sight rail, boot shank or entrenching tool ) its most often you, your sitch and how you handle it.
    anyway thats my question.

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    Cool thats neato

    hmm
    i had no idea thats what the jr's did
    i wish someone had spoken to me when I was younger.

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    you guys should come my way.

    Juniors round me do a lot. Everything but going into a burning building.
    Ive been officer on truck before.
    ive been a nozzleman on a fire (exterior)
    ive even cut a car with the jaws of life.

    do you other juniors train with your senior members? we do all the same training, all the same classes. (unless fire inside a building is involved)

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    way to crush the hopes and dreams of children/teens around the country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustanGT1964 View Post
    way to crush the hopes and dreams of children/teens around the country!
    Please tell me you are kidding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustanGT1964 View Post
    way to crush the hopes and dreams of children/teens around the country!
    Huh? Where did ya get that from?

    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    That was, ummm, sort of random.
    Haha. I have a tendency to do that so I shouldn't say anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MustanGT1964 View Post
    way to crush the hopes and dreams of children/teens around the country!
    That was, ummm, sort of random.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    I have to agree with zfd33. JUNIORS ARE IMPORTANT!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    That was, ummm, sort of random.
    no kidding

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    Even though i am a junior ff I agree 100%. Our departments SOP's baisically outline what you stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by st42stephenAFT View Post
    All kidding aside, BLS you're right. Being a jr/exp has its blessings, and its down sides. Sure, you're a "firefighter", but you're not a firefighter yet.
    Yes BLS has a point with this. I am a former Jr. FF (just turned 18 and moved up to Sr side). But I have to disagree with this statement. Junior Firefighters are NOT firefighters by ANY means. Just because the name is there, that doesn't mean anything. Juniors are IMHO just job shadowers. The only thing that they can do and are good for on a fire scene is fetching tools and helping with rehab. I'm not trying to put anybody down, cause, remember, I just came from that side. All you are there to do is to LEARN. Nothing more, Nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitesox4life View Post
    Yes BLS has a point with this. I am a former Jr. FF (just turned 18 and moved up to Sr side). But I have to disagree with this statement. Junior Firefighters are NOT firefighters by ANY means. Just because the name is there, that doesn't mean anything. Juniors are IMHO just job shadowers. The only thing that they can do and are good for on a fire scene is fetching tools and helping with rehab. I'm not trying to put anybody down, cause, remember, I just came from that side. All you are there to do is to LEARN. Nothing more, Nothing less.
    DING DING DING!

    WINNER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    DING DING DING!

    WINNER!

    Whitesox hit the nail on the head.
    My question is what did he win?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t0asty View Post
    My question is what did he win?
    A few brownie points with us, that's all.
    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi View Post
    Go put your pussy 2 1/2" lines away kiddies.

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    By the way KEEPBACK200FEET, you're so dramatic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t0asty View Post
    My question is what did he win?
    If it was my choice...... Nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFxplr326 View Post
    If it was my choice...... Nothing.
    Maybe a few extra zeros in front of his check?
    Just know, I chose my own fate. I drove by the fork in the road and went straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingKiwi View Post
    Go put your pussy 2 1/2" lines away kiddies.

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    By the way KEEPBACK200FEET, you're so dramatic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLSboy View Post
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    Hey!! I want in. I have more replies to him with "Why don't you just STFU" than anyone!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowball View Post
    Hey!! I want in. I have more replies to him with "Why don't you just STFU" than anyone!!
    I'm for it... I say your in. Just depends what the boss says (blsboy)...
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    The more, the merrier!
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    Correction it was "Dude just STFU"!
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