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    Quote Originally Posted by NFD1957 View Post
    The constant arguing on here needs to stop NOW cause i know this doesn't happen at the fire house and so it shouldn't happen here!
    Must be nice to be at your Dept. There is always arguments about things, just come to a monthly meeting at my dept.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    I would have to disagree explorers should be allowed to fight fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by NFD1957 View Post
    As juniors we are doing HANDS-ON TRAINING!!! Let me repeat myself HANDS-ON TRAINING!! That is what we are here for!! No one here is whining. yes we should NOT be doing interior or ventilation but we can do many things outside the structure after we learn how to do them properly!! The constant arguing on here needs to stop NOW cause i know this doesn't happen at the fire house and so it shouldn't happen here! So everyone needs to give it a rest and have some respect for each other!!

    As a last reminder:

    WE ARE HERE FOR HANDS-ON TRAINING!!!!!
    ITS CALLED TRAINING!!
    TRAINING = LEARNING!!
    LEARNING = KNOWLEDGE!!!
    Hate to burst your bubble but, an active fireground is not the place for HANDS-ON TRAINING. Your drill nite or any other time you can use the equipment in a non-emergency mode is hands-on training.

    My company does hands-on training everyday. On the fireground, if I have done my job properly, when I give them an order I expect it to be done without any guidance and properly. It is not the time to train. If the IC needs something done that's not the time to train someone. You now have to make sure it was done right and if it has not you have to send someone else to fix it, not good fire ground management.

    There will be plenty of time in your career to train. Just don't become one of those 2/20 wonders (two years in the fire service with 20 years experience in their own mind.) Or worst a certificate hound. Certificates mean you showed up physically in class, but does not mean that you actually learned anything or can apply what you learned. Have you ever seen anyone not be given a certificate???

    Also, don't grow up to fast have fun while you are young and dumb. Being an adult is not all that. Life was more fun without any real responsibility.

    Hope some of this sinks in. Have fun.

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    Our juniors can do the following (once trained):

    Help replace cylinders
    Perform accountability (hold the tags)
    Move hoselines (exterior only)
    Throw speedy dry (work brooms, shovels, etc)


    Cannot:
    Enter the hazard area
    Work any motorized equipment (state child labor laws apply)
    Wear SCBA on an incident
    Drive anything

    The lists have more, but that gives you a flavor.

    ALSO: Here in our County, they can attend Firefighter One at the County Academy, and can do the hands on evolutions. When they turn 18, they simply mail in their certificate and they are certified NJ Firefighter One's.
    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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    As juniors we are doing HANDS-ON TRAINING!!! Let me repeat myself HANDS-ON TRAINING!! That is what we are here for!! No one here is whining. yes we should NOT be doing interior or ventilation but we can do many things outside the structure after we learn how to do them properly!! The constant arguing on here needs to stop NOW cause i know this doesn't happen at the fire house and so it shouldn't happen here! So everyone needs to give it a rest and have some respect for each other!!

    As a last reminder:

    WE ARE HERE FOR HANDS-ON TRAINING!!!!!
    ITS CALLED TRAINING!!
    TRAINING = LEARNING!!
    LEARNING = KNOWLEDGE!!!
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    The constant arguing on here needs to stop NOW cause i know this doesn't happen at the fire house and so it shouldn't happen here!
    So is it just you and your mom who are members of this department............? First of all, you coming on here and more or less ordering people to stop just makes this all funnier. And second of all, you've never heard an argument, disagreement, or even an intelligent conversation regarding the safety of young adults?



    I would have to disagree explorers should be allowed to fight fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    So is it just you and your mom who are members of this department............? First of all, you coming on here and more or less ordering people to stop just makes this all funnier. And second of all, you've never heard an argument, disagreement, or even an intelligent conversation regarding the safety of young adults?
    It made me laugh too. Obviously this kid doesn't spend much time in a firehouse or his dept is in a fairy tale world. No arguing?? That would be a frickin first.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrffrights View Post
    I would have to disagree explorers should be allowed to fight fire
    One would hope you are joking.
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    I was joking but consider there is some volunteer depts that have firefighters that are 16. All you have to do is pay extra insurance money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrffrights View Post
    I was joking but consider there is some volunteer depts that have firefighters that are 16. All you have to do is pay extra insurance money.
    I'm pretty sure that you dont have to just "pay extra insurance money". In most states child labor laws prohibit children under the age of 18 from participating in firefighting activites or being in IDLH environments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrffrights View Post
    I was joking but consider there is some volunteer depts that have firefighters that are 16. All you have to do is pay extra insurance money.
    I've never heard of any 16 year old in the US or Canada being able to be a full firefighter just by paying "extra insurance money". I think that is an extra large load of bulls***! I don't know of any insurance company that would insure a 16 year old to complete the duty's required of a Firefighter.


    But if you can show me some place that does allow this I'd love to see the laws or regulations stating it can happen.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    You two do realize he has two posts, both in this thread stirring the pot. I would bet an IP check would reveal he has another real alias around here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTRider245 View Post
    You two do realize he has two posts, both in this thread stirring the pot. I would bet an IP check would reveal he has another real alias around here...
    That could very well be. He could also be seriously thinking those things as well.
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    It is some small volunteer department in west texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndvfdff33 View Post
    That could very well be. He could also be seriously thinking those things as well.
    i've thought of the possibility also, and pray to god that is the fact because I hope that there isn't anyone out there that really thinks like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RFRDxplorer View Post
    i've thought of the possibility also, and pray to god that is the fact because I hope that there isn't anyone out there that really thinks like that.
    Nothing would surprise me anymore man. In my work it amazes me what some people think they can do sometimes.
    If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrffrights View Post
    I would have to disagree explorers should be allowed to fight fire

    I'm not really a "Junior Firefighter" or an "Explorer"...yet...but...

    Just one word to that statement:


    WOW
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    I have a question here, and that's the following question, what are the list of the fire service knots and how would I go about tying them? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighter2230 View Post
    Thank you. THANK YOU! These will help ALOT! Thank you.
    Squad 54 responding with two personell, show Engine 542 responding aswell.

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