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    Default Here's what you get when you buy equipment off Ebay

    I would venture to guess that when you buy equipment off sites like ebay, especially when you get " a great deal", this is what you are getting.

    Contractor admits swiping police-fire radios intended for 3 counties
    by Mike Frassinelli/The Star-Ledger
    Thursday March 27, 2008, 8:09 PM
    John P. Holmes said he didn't intend to swipe the more than three-dozen police and fire radios that went missing from the Warren County 911 Communications Center.

    But when they ended up in his vehicle, the contractor from Pennsylvania couldn't resist the temptation to sell them to pay off his mounting bills, he told a judge today.

    "When I noticed the equipment in the back of my truck, I failed as a responsible person to return them," said Holmes, 39, of Allentown, Pa., who pleaded guilty today to third-degree theft and agreed to pay back more than $58,000 for missing radios.

    Holmes was hired last year to upgrade the fire sprinkler system as part of a renovation of the communications center in Franklin Township.

    The 41 stolen radios, received through a grant, were to be disbursed in the Delaware River counties of Warren, Sussex and Hunterdon as part of a project to improve regional communication in the event of a natural disaster, authorities said.

    The radios were reported missing on Nov. 2.

    Radios were peddled on the eBay internet auction site, and some ended up as far away as Florida, authorities said.

    Holmes told Superior Court Judge John Pursel that after he had fallen ill last year, he got behind in his electric and mortgage bill payments.


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    The local fire chief should "just not resist" when he has an urge to smack this guy. Idiot.

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    John P. Holmes said he didn't intend to swipe the more than three-dozen police and fire radios that went missing from the Warren County 911 Communications Center.

    But when they ended up in his vehicle, the contractor from Pennsylvania couldn't resist the temptation to sell them to pay off his mounting bills, he told a judge today.


    I'm sure the radios just got up and walked into his truck for the ride....
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    George,

    I wouldn't automatically paint Ebay with the same brush as this idiot. While you certainly have to expect some of this to go on, and some scamming to occur, many, many reputable businesses, and even some government auction agents now use Ebay. It is a great way for small and medium-sized businesses to advertise around the country and internationally, not to mention FD's trying to sell unique equipment with limited local markets.

    For example, my corporate IT manager often buys and sells tens of thousands of dollars worth of lightly used computer and server equipment each year, saving the company thousands over traditional supply routes. As an experienced buyer, he has had very few negative experiences.

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    e-bay can be hell for many people:false seller with money to send to other countries,so a huge BS.

    for other people e-bay is great and secured site when you want to buy or sell something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaldwell View Post
    George,

    I wouldn't automatically paint Ebay with the same brush as this idiot. While you certainly have to expect some of this to go on, and some scamming to occur, many, many reputable businesses, and even some government auction agents now use Ebay. It is a great way for small and medium-sized businesses to advertise around the country and internationally, not to mention FD's trying to sell unique equipment with limited local markets.

    For example, my corporate IT manager often buys and sells tens of thousands of dollars worth of lightly used computer and server equipment each year, saving the company thousands over traditional supply routes. As an experienced buyer, he has had very few negative experiences.

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    Agree 100%.

    My post was aimed at the whackers who find an incredible deal on fire equipment on ebay and then act completely surprised when the thing turns out to be stolen or less than advertised quality.
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    Am I the only one who picked up on the fact that this guys name is John Holmes?

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    I picked up on that, too.

    The Town of Weymouth in MA sold their fire alarm boxes on ebay and made some pretty good money.

    Plenty of "touchers" (That is my term for a whacker) out there to buy this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyirons2 View Post
    Am I the only one who picked up on the fact that this guys name is John Holmes?
    Thanks jonny, i just spit my cereal all over my computer screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MassFireGuy View Post
    I picked up on that, too.

    The Town of Weymouth in MA sold their fire alarm boxes on ebay and made some pretty good money.

    Plenty of "touchers" (That is my term for a whacker) out there to buy this stuff.
    I am not even talking about memorabilia (as I'm sure most of the boxes went to collectors). But if you were able to buy a brand new portable radio for an incredibly low price, wouldn't you consider the possibility it may have been procured via five finger discount?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I am not even talking about memorabilia (as I'm sure most of the boxes went to collectors). But if you were able to buy a brand new portable radio for an incredibly low price, wouldn't you consider the possibility it may have been procured via five finger discount?
    Actually, George, with the size of the boom boxes sold today, it's more of a ten fingered discount!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I am not even talking about memorabilia (as I'm sure most of the boxes went to collectors). But if you were able to buy a brand new portable radio for an incredibly low price, wouldn't you consider the possibility it may have been procured via five finger discount?
    I would assume so...

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    Let's see, a contractor who was hired to upgrade the sprinkler system had 41 radios just "end up" in the back of his truck....Then he "failed to return them". But he didn't steal them.

    Is this guy any relation to the Clintons?
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