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    Question Columbia Southern University

    My department recently became associated with Columbia Southern University thus giving me a discount on tuition. My question is, does anyone know anything about this school and/or are the credits transferable to a more standard university. I am interested in earning my bachelors in Fire Science and as many of you know, working full time and standard, in person school is much more difficult to complete with the time constraints of work and family life. If there are any other online programs that anyone knows about or thoughts on Columbia Southern, I would greatly appreciate your input.

    Thank You,

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    Default Academic accreditation

    Columbia Southern University only has DETC accreditation. The attached graphic is this morning's result from checking the US Department of Education accreditation database.

    This means that CSU is not a regionally accredited academic institution. Your ability to apply the work you do at CSU to another college or university is significantly restricted.

    Mariah P. Bear with Thomas Nixon (2006) Bear's Guide to Earning Degrees by Distance Learning. 16th editon. Berkley; 10 Speed Press.

    Page 39 Chapter 8 Accreditation

    "... while most schools with regional accreditation will recognize credits and degrees issued by other schools with regional accreditation, less than half will recognize a student's achievements from a DETC-accredited school, even though both accreditors meet CHEA standards, ..."

    My university will only recognize course work from a college or university that has a regional accreditation. That means I cannot accept academic work completed at CSU.

    Check this link: http://forums.firehouse.com/showthread.php?p=690644

    Check these two articles about academic accreditation that I wrote

    Making College Count: http://firegeezer.com/2007/09/11/making-college-count/

    College Degrees, Fakes, Maybes and Full Credit: http://firegeezer.com/2007/09/18/col...d-full-credit/

    I have a bias, since I run a university program that is regionally accredited and used to run a community college fire science program that was also regionally accredited.

    Good luck with your academic adventure.


    Assistant Professor Michael Ward
    Associate Director - Emergency Health Services
    Department of Emergency Medicine
    The George Washington University
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    Last edited by MikeWard; 04-04-2008 at 08:08 AM.

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    Default Online colleges with regional academic accreditation

    In old fh.com thread I referenced, the following question was posed:
    Quote Originally Posted by texfiremedic View Post
    Mr. Ward,
    Maybe you can offer some insight into why a school like yours will not accept the DETC accredited hours. As best I can tell the DETC accreditation process is nearly identical to the SACS accreditation process. From what I have heard, CSU has approached SACS several times about accreditation, but they insist that they will not accredit an on-line only school. Since you are an instructor of an on-line only program, and your school obviously supports on-line education, why would they not accept credits from CSU? If CSU meets DETC standards, and therefore CHEA standards, and is good enough for the US Government, why aren't the hours any good at your school? Thanks.
    This is a good question, I can only say that this is the industry practice ... need to ask the deans,

    Meanwhile, here is a list of exclusively online colleges and universities that have BOTH DETC and regional academic accreditation. I see one did get SACS accreditation.

    American Public University, Charlestown WVA. Regional accreditation since July 01, 2006

    Capella University, Minneapolis, MN. Regional accreditation since September 1997. http://www.capella.edu/

    Grand Canyon University, Phoenix, AZ. Regional accreditation since 1968. http://online.gcu.edu/business.php

    Keiser University, Fort Lauderdale, FL. Regional accreditation since 1991. http://www.keiseruniversity.edu/

    Mountain State University, Beckley, WVA. Regional accreditation since 1981. http://www.mountainstate.edu/

    National Louis University, Chicago, IL. Regional accreditation since 1946. http://www.nl.edu/

    University of Phoenix, Phoenix, AZ. Regional accreditation since 1978. http://www.phoenix.edu/

    Last edited by MikeWard; 04-04-2008 at 08:23 AM.

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